Nerf the FDL for pvp’s sake

Quantis Trap

Quantis Trap
I'd rather them give the FDL a couple ships to compete fairly than a nerf. The Mamba could have been that and a buff to a couple other ships such as the Clipper could do it.
 

cmdr Ramius007

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CMDR QUANTIS TRAP said:
I'd rather them give the FDL a couple ships to compete fairly than a nerf. The Mamba could have been that and a buff to a couple other ships such as the Clipper could do it.
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if you add new ships without nerfing FDL or buffing rest you practically remove old ships from game, i would say that we need balance pass before adding new stuff. But again, we should start from touching core mechanics that make FDL so strong rather than touching spreadsheet data. I m curious about effect of weakening upfront shieds with boosters nerf combined with weakening feedback cascade effect at the same time. This would make ships with weaker base shields but big intenrals with banks a bit more viable.
 

Mohrgan

Mohrgan
What if FD just took the stats from an FdL, and just created a few more skins for it? That way you can all meta your little hearts out, but you can have different looking boats. As far as I can remember, the FdL's claim to fame is that it is the, THE, premier combat ship. All other ships got a boost to catch the FdL years ago. Around when MRPs were released, and military slots. You'l notice the FdL has no dedicated module slots.

I am not in favor of tinkering with ships for the sole sake of variety in PvP, that is such a vanity issue, I can't get behind the notion. Meta is the flame, while everyone chasing it are the moths.
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
An Imperial Clipper (sometimes a Fer de Lance) in a PvP wing is a support ship. The advantage with a Clipper is it's speed closing and targeting you. It's weapons are designed to take out your FSD and drop your shields. Then all those other PvP players take you out.

Enjoy Elite Dangerous in Open mode when you are not always being aware of your surroundings or knowing using Open, Group or Solo to your advantage.

Regards
 

Eraden

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My opinion of the FDL has changed. Rather than nerf it, buff the Mamba a little bit so as to make it equal but different than the FDL. Then folks can have two good choices for medium combat ships. Hell, I would even go so far as to make the Clipper a medium ship and give players THREE choices for medium combat ships.
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
Eraden said:
My opinion of the FDL has changed. Rather than nerf it, buff the Mamba a little bit so as to make it equal but different than the FDL. Then folks can have two good choices for medium combat ships. Hell, I would even go so far as to make the Clipper a medium ship and give players THREE choices for medium combat ships.
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The cool kids are all flying Alliance tank-ships these days.
 

GunnerBill

GunnerBill
If you nerf the FDL there will just be another meta PvP ship swamping your scanner.

What you need to do is create one or two viable contenders, they should have differing characteristics but the sum of all parts should be equal to a good PvP ship.

You see I liked the Chieftain and the way it handles, it's got great weapons and convergence but it has rubbish durability. Shields are terrible and the hull ain't great. Buff that.

Take the FAS and add a couple more hardpoints or buff the agility of the FGS a little.

Etc.
 

Cmdr. Numa

Cmdr. Numa
I wonder if all the Mamba trashers are using gimped game controls in ED. Yes, it doesn't turn so well, but more than makes up for that with it's lateral thrusters, which work beautifully. It's heat problems were fixed long ago. I also like having two small utility guns at my disposal without hurting the three bigger damage dealers and the fact that all guns are topside. My FdL is gathering dust, at least in PvE, which is all I do.
 

Kurucz

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Cmdr Jim S Walter said:
Right now if you want to pvp there is only one choice of ship that’s remotely viable and that’s the Fer De Lance , if you disagree you can take your “pvp corvette” into a cg system and see how long you last in the ocean of FDLs. I counted 12 Fdls in one instance the other night, no other pvp ships in sight 😞

The FDL is way to op and needs more of a draw back, Here are some of my ideas:

-triple the price of the FDL,the increase in price could make dyeing in pvp less desirable due to a rebuy

- make the FDL slower but don’t touch the manoverablity

- buff the Mamba, why did you make this ship usesless fd?

-Remove a utility slot from the fdl


I know pvp/combat isn’t a “new feature” so fd is just going to ignore it , but I feel better posting this on the forums.
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Also note the fact that the fdl is difficult to master, you are getting smacked by fdl flyers because they already had more experience not because of their "holy fdl" they fly the fdl because of the high skill ceiling it gives you. Way higher than a chieftain or a fas which although are fun ships they are easier to fly opposite to the fdl i fly both of them and i have wrecked both ships in both and got wrecked in both ships by both. Your carebear mind just cannot comprehend the fact that pvp in this game isnt only the "i get engineered ship and im good" thing it isnt it at all matter of fact. You actually have to get better at aiming, evasion and you have to get used to the ship too cuz all of them are different. Before you comment think about it and do your research among actual people that are good at the pvp part of the game, for example a NATO or Prism. Or even other pvp focused squadrons cuz although they arent the best at the game they are still usually above average and know more about pvp than most players
 
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