I've still not preordered it...
Odyssey Alpha - let us try VR 3D stereoscopic headlook on foot and alpha test its nausea trigger / gameplay
- Thread starter VR Jay Le Chardon
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Pre-order? I'm not insane. It's digital goods, you absolutely don't need to do it.
Moreover, either give me a good deal (so at least 40% off), or earn me as a fan who wants to support the project. doesn't tick any of these boxes. After Horizons it did, now it doesn't
Completely agree.Pre-order? I'm not insane. It's digital goods, you absolutely don't need to do it.
Moreover, either give me a good deal (so at least 40% off), or earn me as a fan who wants to support the project. doesn't tick any of these boxes. After Horizons it did, now it doesn't
For pre-order it needs to be a good deal AND something I absolutely know that I am going to play there and then.
For Odyssey, I don't see any need to pro-order at all. The original Horizons planets are getting a facelift, which should keep me going for a good while and I have minimal interest in the way the FPS element sounds atm, which means I am only interested in the additional planet types for SRV and prettier canyons.
And by the time the Odyssey sales come, we will know if the new planets and VR implementation in the FPS element is worth it.
I'm really glad LEP around Horizons was a limited time offer which I luckily missed. Because I would 100% be suckered into buying that around that time... I can even hear myself rationalising in my head: "Surely it's a superb deal, all future expansions for "free"!Well I stupidly pre-ordered everything with the LEP, so I'll prod all the VR bits in the alpha and report back
Yeah right...I jumped in the end because of the naughty '£90 in roubles' pricing issue. That was a price point I could live with for the overall punt. (The way I saw it, Horizons was already a pre-order, given that it was arriving in stages. And it also signalled they were actually going to do the expansions. So in for a penny...)
And now, finally, after 6 years, I'm only going to be £10 down
(I still don't regret it weirdly. I feel like ED still has some kinks and surprises in its tail. But ask me again in 3 years if we still don't have VR Legs)
And now, finally, after 6 years, I'm only going to be £10 down
(I still don't regret it weirdly. I feel like ED still has some kinks and surprises in its tail. But ask me again in 3 years if we still don't have VR Legs
)I kind of regret NOT buying an LEP, but theres no point looking back, so in the interim I'm in a position to vote with my wallet.
See, as I`ve said before - there's good reason why this doesn't happen. You asking for a dialogue centred around the "why". As soon as the other party agrees to that, they have, in effect ceded control, becuase what logically comes next is that you ask, "well, okay then why dont you do it like this." - and down the rabbit hole of pointless dialogue you and frontier go.
Thats why it`ll never happen, and that's why no other developer would be crazy enough to enter into such a conversation. Its pointless and it wastes time. Youre still approaching this like it's a negotiation between two equal parties when in reality its a dictatorship.
Come on. A quote from someone separated from the actual work by layers of management? They oversimplify the worst.
You may not accept the tone, but you can't disagree with the spirit. If there's not enough quality in your work, you don't stay working for long, and the idea that customers can negotiate down the quality bar to get their hands on something is not workable.
9:00 is when David Braben starts talking about it.
Do you think that video makes whats specifically been asked for by the OP in this thread more likely?
- I’m just providing you with the CEO’s description of how it took Greg about a day to get VR up and running on the Rift DK1.The POC. Not the final build the customers saw. 7 years ago. For a different part of the game. Before a single line of code or a single design decision about Odyssey has been made. Other than that, it's a direct analogue
You remember how you said:The POC. Not the final build the customers saw. 7 years ago. For a different part of the game. Before a single line of code or a single design decision about Odyssey has been made. Other than that, it's a direct analogue
...I was only replying to that.
As for the OP - the basic early VR implementation talked about by David Braben was only a glorified version of the headlook, without full six-degrees-of-freedom (as the DK1 didn’t support it). Hmmm, a basic stereoscopic VR view with everything else remaining the same...sounds familiar
I’m all for these basic VREDOfeet suggestions - I’ve been doing pseudoEVAs in zero-G, in Stations, and on planetary surfaces for several years now, using the camera suite. It’s a bit janky (as there isn’t an auto-level) but the controls follow standard FPS conventions on a gamepad. Unless the camera suite is getting binned for Odyssey, it’s going to be a bit weird being able to pretend-walk in full VR from ships and SRVs but be stuck with a flatscreen for the proper-legs.
The POC. Not the final build the customers saw. 7 years ago. For a different part of the game. Before a single line of code or a single design decision about Odyssey has been made. Other than that, it's a direct analogue
I put the like but from what I've seen it seems a very intensive experience. I'm afraid that in the current status it is not really VR friendly. A more relaxed exploration gameplay is probably fine but the pew pew will be terribile I guess.
Hey Sensei, come give the Suggestion thread variant a bump if you fancy. Might get to the appropriate ears?
Allow the VR '2D screen' to be disabled?
Hello lovely devs! This suggestion is based on some major assumptions, but it would be great if it were possible. Initial Assumptions: That the stereoscopic render used for ships & SRVs in EDO functions in Legs mode. That the 2D screen mode for Legs can be set to toggle on or off...
(And yes, it would be very intensive & limited experience most likely. But explo could be one of the more possible outcomes maybe?)
I know some people might find VR headlook in an intense fast moving firefight a bit too much for their VR legs / stomach to cope with, which is why, in the opening post I said I want Frontier to "give us the ability to select as an option in graphics settings "VR on foot: 3D headlook / Virtual flat screen"." However, without getting to try it, you'll never know whether you need the virtual flatcreen, or not, and even if you do need it for pew pew, without this request being granted, you'd never be able to switch it to the more immersive 3D VR headlook I'm asking for to properly experience things like planets surfaces / walking in stations etc. I'm not mandating VR headlook as the only VR mode for on foot, simply asking we have it as an option, and nobody can say having more choices is a bad thing right? But if we don't push this hard enough, we will instead have a choice taken away from us.
I want fdev to add wallpaper to my cockpit. If I don't push this enough, I will instead have a choice taken away from me.
Imagine being able to decorate your ship with cosmetics. Warframe does it. It gives you items you can purchase, or make or collect or quest for to decorate your ship. I've done a lot of decorating and collecting. I've also spent a fair amount of money! It is very enjoyable.
Now with Fdev the pricing in the arx store is a little over the top and always has been for skins and such. But if they made a HUGE variety of items and continued to pump them out at a reasonable price, with the ability to earn ARX in game, they will rake in piles of cash. So if I spend $20 cash, and I can add a fish tank, a bed, posters, coffee maker etc.
What if you could convert 1 ton of cargo space into a themed "room" for the larger ships? Imagine a stellar cartography room where you can directly interact with the galaxy map. I'd pay for that! Just make them like storable modules you can add or subtract from your ship.
No man's sky. How your can build inside your freighter and change the interior. That would even be cooler. I don't think we'll see much of this though it is possible.
But if they did make interiors they'll need to make things to fill them with.. and some of the premium items could bring them some serious cash!
