Give Yamiks an Alpha key!

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Ozric

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Hell, Yamiks even said in that very video that handing out limitless Alpha keys would be stupid as there is a grey market for such keys. So he can understand that FDevs want to put a limit on those.
So why the need for a video then? 🤷‍♂️

he's the Howard Stern/ Joe Rogan of Elite. Having a counter voice in a franchise is necessary to keep it alive and not going stale and die.
Are you suggesting he is the only person who is critical of Elite? Some of the people who have been listed as content creators over the last couple of years have been very critical of the game and the company.
 
Yep, its blatant censorship. Nothing more.
It really isn't. They could ban him from the game. They could strike all his videos on YT for publishing without permission, they could do loads. Not giving him something he can buy, is not censorship. He's going to get Odyssey, he's going to make videos about it. You can bet on that. So he's not been censored at all.
 
Agreed, but I think it's not about that counter voice, but rather a style in which criticism is delivered.
His vulgarity is appealing to some and not others. I know alot of people who would much rather listen to Y than OA. I don't think Fdev telling him he's not a core content creator was appropriate if they were trying to distance themselves from his vulgarity.
And sorry, but by no stretch of imagination is Yamiks comparable to those two.
Agreed. I'll give you that. I couldn't think of anyone relevant to compare.
 

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Just about all of them could use an editor, like you I would only use videos to find out something very specific. Sitting through 30mins to get one or two sentences on the subject doesn't do me good. For that, the forum is excellent, perhaps that is why I don't watch videos about Elite, if I want to know, I can ask here, not sit through a prerecorded 'lecture' and hope they go into the detail I want.
If I want to find out new stuff about the game I usually come here first, that is true.

Sometimes (and particularly while waiting for something in Elite... be that a FC jump, long SC commute, restarting after the 8pm server bounce, etc. etc.) I browse Youtube to kill some time and since Skynet Google knows my browsing history OA comes up on top regularly - and he gets the clicks because most of his videos are shorter than 10 minutes, usually provide a good coverage of recent updates/events --- even some mild criticism nowadays where it's due --- and they're presented with pretty videos of in-game footage.

I used to enjoy D2EA but he has a habit of removing the 'magic' of the game by overanalysing things and his focus on min-max strategies. I like his personality though. Yamiks... not my cup of tea and I tried to watch his stuff a few times in the past as it came up in the suggestions list. Just too vulgar and low-brow for my liking, I prefer a more grown up and eloquent style the older I become.
 

Ozric

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thanks, but you didn't really clarify anything, which simply highly devalues your totally respectable opinion in my view, but i can live with that.

you again accused someone publicly of abusive behavior refusing to give proof. and you're a moderator. dunno how tho put this, really ...
What proof would you like exactly? I didn't video record it.

My being a moderator has nothing to do with me having an opinion.
 
Well then, my opinion about Yamiks: Is he hyper-critical? Yes, he is. But that's also his gimmick. When there's something he likes he praises it to high heavens and beyond (again: See his videos about the Python, the Corvette, the Cutter or FDevs decission to not have VR for the FPS portion of EDO). I usually tend to watch his videos 2nd to get a counterbalance to other creators. And when you look past his weird humor you more often then not find that his criticisms are somewhat valid.

So why the need for a video then? 🤷‍♂️

As far as I understood it Yamiks was more confused then angry that he was not considered a "core content creator" when he's actually #2 in subscribers with only Obsidian Ant having more. But due to his usual delivery this came across wrong.
 
Are you suggesting he is the only person who is critical of Elite? Some of the people who have been listed as content creators over the last couple of years have been very critical of the game and the company.
No. He's just the leading critic. I became a fan of him during the fleet carrier debacle. When fdev dropped fleet carrier upkeep from 150M a week to 25 every content creator was happy and praising fdev about it except him. I didn't want upkeep at all. 0. I called it for what it was, a manipulation tactic and he was the only youtuber saying that despite the fact that the forums were on fire about it.
 
Have you watched Yamiks?
not all, now and then, not at all lately. i do not share much of his criticism but criticism and vulgarity is not automatically abuse. personally i'd say who want to view that as abuse is someone who loves to live offended if you know what i mean.

still, regardless of anyone's opinion about whether he merits a key or not, whether frontier's response is ok or not ... simply refusing to examine the situation just because the person implied has "lost their rights" for "being an abuser" would require really strong evidence. actually, scrap that: no amount evidence would actually be enough. different things.
 
Well then, my opinion about Yamiks: Is he hyper-critical? Yes, he is. But that's also his gimmick. When there's something he likes he praises it to high heavens and beyond (again: See his videos about the Python, the Corvette, the Cutter or FDevs decission to not have VR for the FPS portion of EDO). I usually tend to watch his videos 2nd to get a counterbalance to other creators. And when you look past his weird humor you more often then not find that his criticisms are somewhat valid.
It's his delivery and how he apparently confronted and angered devs in person that's the problem. Angry Joe used to rant and rave at lousy games and lousy game launches but somehow his delivery back then didn't come off as insulting but genuinely critical for criticism's sake, not just for cheap laughs and a higher view count.

All I know right now is that at least one developer doesn't like him and I will continue to watch his ED videos and all that joystick-wiggling nonsense he does.
 
Sometimes (and particularly while waiting for something in Elite... be that a FC jump, long SC commute, restarting after the 8pm server bounce, etc. etc.) I browse Youtube to kill some time and since Skynet Google knows my browsing history OA comes up on top regularly - and he gets the clicks because most of his videos are shorter than 10 minutes, usually provide a good coverage of recent updates/events --- even some mild criticism nowadays where it's due --- and they're presented with pretty videos of in-game footage.
Whilst playing the game (not counting the 8pm server bounce) in between bits you watch videos about the game? Boy you love this game. :) I'm teasing of course because I'm on the forum during all those times. I get what you're saying and if I wanted to watch a video about the game I guess I would be more likely to watch one of his, as you later point out, he is more succinct with the information.

I also get that Yamiks' style is not to everyone's taste but he clearly has a market and his serious views on the game, even when presented in a puerile way do carry some merit. Not all but some. Some folk like classical, some folk like punk. It's all music, you listen to what pleases you I suppose, or even, what you're isn the mood for.
 
What proof would you like exactly? I didn't video record it.
not really proof ... a convincing abstract of the offenses, possibly with some linked material. i can't simply label someone as an abuser because someone says "he is, i saw it" without further detail. for context, thistle pointed at his youtube material: i have seen no abuse there, criteria is apparently not universal, and when it comes to shut out a person, these details are really important.

My being a moderator has nothing to do with me having an opinion.
indeed and you're welcome to share it. but to me your post looks very much like "blame and shame" aggravated by the blame not being substantiated, and used to promote the disqualification of a person's position in a discussion. ad-hominem rings a bell? in short: you don't care because you don't like him, so screw him. it really doesn't get more toxic and i would expect otherwise from a moderator.
 
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