yeah, I am twice as good now using the internet and sort tables by clicking column topics - thx to my FC
Who's Idea Was This? FC's & CG's
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Angry thread 
I too think this three identical CGs is making things too difficult, i was
trying to fill up near the Duamta CG and i'd to go to about five stations to fill up with either type of medicine..
When i finally found a reliable station, it was 6 jumps out and 9 jumps back, hence i've contributed little to these CGs ( i also get limited playtime, which doesn't help)
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trying to fill up near the Duamta CG and i'd to go to about five stations to fill up with either type of medicine..
When i finally found a reliable station, it was 6 jumps out and 9 jumps back, hence i've contributed little to these CGs ( i also get limited playtime, which doesn't help)
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And I am generally new to the game but have a wealth of shortcuts such as EDDB, Mine Tool, a Materials link, Edmining link and numerous YouTube videos that help give players direction (as opposed to fumbling around).
As stated, I believe the FCs do provide an unfair advantage in the way they 'can' operate - but they have not affected me at all in gaining every reward since I started (with the missile rack CG). Happy to send you the shortcuts to the YouTube channels and other internet links that helped me if you want - just PM me.
I can understand the FC mechanic is an unfair one - but I really do not believe they have affected this CG, just use EDDB and pick a site with hundreds of thousands of medical supplies are - that way there will still be some when you get there. <O
"yeah, I am twice as good now using the internet and sort tables by clicking column topics - thx to my FC "
I'm referring to time advantage. You can park near a supply point fill your FC hold as much as you want with short trips. Make 1 jump to the CG's gravity well and make short trips between you FC & CG.
Without a FC it's at least 2-3 jumps from a GC to a supply point & 3-5 jumps back. Making it much more time consuming for one load in whatever cargo ship you choose.
Overall one load takes longer as it's still the same amount of time docking.
I guess that's why frontier changed it to top 75% instead of top 25%
"I'm referring to time advantage. You can park near a supply point fill your FC hold as much as you want with short trips. Make 1 jump to the CG's gravity well and make short trips between you FC & CG.
Without a FC it's at least 2-3 jumps from a GC to a supply point & 3-5 jumps back. Making it much more time consuming for one load in whatever cargo ship you choose.
Overall one load takes longer as it's still the same amount of time docking.
I guess that's why frontier changed it to top 75% instead of top 25%
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"yeah, I am twice as good now using the internet and sort tables by clicking column topics - thx to my FC
I'm referring to time advantage. You can park near a supply point fill your FC hold as much as you want with short trips. Make 1 jump to the CG's gravity well and make short trips between you FC & CG.
Without a FC it's at least 2-3 jumps from a GC to a supply point & 3-5 jumps back. Making it much more time consuming for one load in whatever cargo ship you choose.
Overall one load takes longer as it's still the same amount of time docking
I see nothing wrong here...
after ignoring them for quite some time and a long time off the game, and having said i would never have a carrier, i finally decided the obvious: that i would get a carrier. it went like this:
no mining involved except for one bromelite cg. plus a couple of other cg and basically bounty hunting, alone in a medium ship (ok, a fdl, a monster medium ship ;-)). roughly 3 weeks, 2-5h long session every other day, actually having a lot of fun (plus earning rank 5 with arissa which i had conveniently planned for a month before).
some rough initial planning and then experimenting on the way with different tools (3rd party tools are essential part of ed, sold separately) options, methods and places, thus finding better methods, more beautiful places in the process. 3 weeks of entertaining metagame + gameplay and chill = SARUBOBO VOL-ORZ, deployed with great success, fanfare and hilarity in these current cg. and beyond!
know what? carriers are the plague but are actually fun, very useful, and quite easy to get, no need to mine at all (if you don't want to). just get one.
Not everbody has the time or funds to, "just get one" - i was playing about two years before i bought an Anaconda (which i'm still engineering), now after about another two years, i just bought a Corvette...after ignoring them for quite some time and a long time off the game, and having said i would never have a carrier, i finally decided the obvious: that i would get a carrier. it went like this:
no mining involved except for one bromelite cg. plus a couple of other cg and basically bounty hunting, alone in a medium ship (ok, a fdl, a monster medium ship ;-)). roughly 3 weeks, 2-5h long session every other day, actually having a lot of fun (plus earning rank 5 with arissa which i had conveniently planned for a month before).
some rough initial planning and then experimenting on the way with different tools (3rd party tools are essential part of ed, sold separately) options, methods and places, thus finding better methods, more beautiful places in the process. 3 weeks of entertaining metagame + gameplay and chill = SARUBOBO VOL-ORZ, deployed with great success, fanfare and hilarity in these current cg. and beyond!
know what? carriers are the plague but are actually fun, very useful, and quite easy to get, no need to mine at all (if you don't want to). just get one.
I might have enough money to buy a carrier in about 10 years!
.(Of course, it's not just their super high purchase and upgrade cost, but their upkeep costs that mean most normal players will never be able to buy one)
.but it's going to be a gorgoeus carrier!I might have enough money to buy a carrier in about 10 years!
i totally respect your way of playing, but my point was that getting a carrier isn't really a big endeavor. as example i put myself, a semi-casual player that never gave an arx about credits (see graph) and did it in less than 3 weeks, without any stress and without any mining (disclaimer: might contain traces of mining). nah that was a joke. bottom line is that if it's not mining it's stacking bonuses or it's passengers or its massacres or what not, if you just get at it it's pretty straightforward.
never mind about the maintenance, that's is just a fraction extra for a whole year and if you keep playing you will make enough for it even by accident. if you don't keep playing then what's the problem?
I don't think it makes much difference, does it? If anything, it probably makes them easier to get.
1) Basic Medicines are produced in substantial quantities by Industrial systems, which are the most common type of bubble system. Total bubble-wide supply is around 600 megatonnes, with an estimated regeneration rate of ~350 megatonnes per day.
2) The combined hauling of all three CGs is around 90 megatonnes (with a day and a bit to go). The single trade CG two weeks ago got just over 100 megatonnes. Whether one CG or three probably about the same amount of cargo gets hauled, but this way there's three separate smaller spheres of depletion rather than one big one.
Likewise here: I know how to mine, but I don't find it very interesting. Most of my money has come from mission-running ... and having been playing the game for a while.
Earning 100 million an hour still takes a fair bit of optimising - though no need for actual exploits - whether you're doing mining, combat or trade missions ... earning 100 million a week, on the other hand, is pretty straightforward nowadays doing pretty much anything. Do that for a year and you've got your carrier. Sure, a year's a long time. But plenty of people have been playing for longer, so the money's all building up out there.
The egg's not been a thing for quite a while now ... but the credit earning rates of the player base as a whole haven't changed all that much since: it was effective, but not that much more effective than other more honest options. (But because it was there and more effective, the honest options didn't get as widely publicised, so it's harder to find information on those)
For something like this, a round-trip from source to destination and back probably takes about 15 minutes in an engineered ship.
A round-trip to carrier and back probably takes about five minutes (and perhaps longer in the destination systems since the parking spots close to the destination station are probably already full of carriers)
So it's maybe a 50% speed-up at best. If you're going for a top 10 finish, then sure, you might need that. A top 10% finish, on the other hand, is two trips each day in a large normal trade ship - the top 10% starts at around 7-8000t, which isn't even a third of a carrier's capacity. I've done more than that in a Python before, never mind what's possible in a T-9 or Cutter.
For most other CG types - combat, warzone, exploration, salvage, research, etc. - the carrier is at best very marginally useful.
Where they are really useful is for long-range CGs where the ability to easily move tens of pilots 500LY at once can massively improve efficiency - but you don't need your own carrier for that, just find one run by someone community-minded and join in with them.
And I am making those 2-3 jumps and am well within the % needed to get the rewards - all of them."yeah, I am twice as good now using the internet and sort tables by clicking column topics - thx to my FC
I'm referring to time advantage. You can park near a supply point fill your FC hold as much as you want with short trips. Make 1 jump to the CG's gravity well and make short trips between you FC & CG.
Without a FC it's at least 2-3 jumps from a GC to a supply point & 3-5 jumps back. Making it much more time consuming for one load in whatever cargo ship you choose.
Overall one load takes longer as it's still the same amount of time docking.
I guess that's why frontier changed it to top 75% instead of top 25%
I really don't get your post I have quoted, you state it is an unfair time advantage, but then indicate that it must be the reason Frontier changed the objective to 75%. That sentence seems to indicate you think the 75% is achievable(for those without the FC)
So if the CG is achievable then why complain that it is not fair? Can you do it as easily as others...no, but neither can I - but I can do it. I will complain when the advantage of the FC stops me from having a chance with completing a CG, but it seems silly to complain when you can achieve a CG and are just sore that others can do it faster.
The third party websites are as accurate as the data we players give them, as the data comes from information provided by third party tools some of us players run in the background on our PCs and by other tools and methods for the Console users. However not everyone uses them at all and some switch them off to protect sources when CGs get competitive, also they only provide information when a station gets visited.
If you weren't running the tools and you bought something at those markets you were increasing the inaccuracy.
"The egg's not been a thing for quite a while now" it was for years & it is again, DTEA just posted a vid 4 days ago.
"So if the CG is achievable then why complain that it is not fair? Can you do it as easily as others...no, but neither can I - but I can do it. I will complain when the advantage of the FC stops me from having a chance with completing a CG, but it seems silly to complain when you can achieve a CG and are just sore that others can do it faster."
Some of us don't have countless hours to pour into the game.
"So if the CG is achievable then why complain that it is not fair? Can you do it as easily as others...no, but neither can I - but I can do it. I will complain when the advantage of the FC stops me from having a chance with completing a CG, but it seems silly to complain when you can achieve a CG and are just sore that others can do it faster."
Some of us don't have countless hours to pour into the game.
If dont use jumpomium and guardian FSD booster you will still lose to those who do... so even with out FC if your not willing to use them... your still coming in the bottom of the list as there are players that will...
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I earned my carrier by doing Robigo runs, 2.5 billion to spare after purchase.
Was that an exploit too?
Stop trying to go for the big profits and try the basic meds. Im going to station with 1000's in supply less than 12LY away....
"I earned my carrier by doing Robigo runs, 2.5 billion to spare after purchase."
Not an exploit, just roughly 13+ hrs of doing a mind numbing loop (if you were speed running it). A+ for you being that dedicated
Not an exploit, just roughly 13+ hrs of doing a mind numbing loop (if you were speed running it). A+ for you being that dedicated
No need to complain about FC's.
They have ruined trade CG's. Just don't do them.
I did one trade CG with FC's involved, taught me to never waste my time again.
Also taught me to never buy or sell to a FC.
They have ruined trade CG's. Just don't do them.
I did one trade CG with FC's involved, taught me to never waste my time again.
Also taught me to never buy or sell to a FC.
It helps if you quote a person if you are directly addressing their post - my apologies in my late reply as I was unaware you commented on my post:
I don't have countless hours. But now complaining about people having more time to play than you?! That is part of life my friend.
So first it"s FCs, then it is not knowing about the online places to help players (to make play more efficient), and now it's people that can play for longer than you.
I have offered help, as have others, but I have a feeling that you are on the 'it's unfair' train and don't really want to get off and get on with the task.
Every complaint you have made has been met with the fact they are not things that will stop you achieving the CG. But I feel now using the fact a person may play longer than you is a little poor.
Just get on with the CGs - I wish you luck. <O
I like it. Means all the eggs can't be sunk in all the baskets like usual.