Ian Phillips
Volunteer Moderator
Should now be fixed, Although some other 'special' characters still are not displaying correctly.
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Should now be fixed, Although some other 'special' characters still are not displaying correctly.
I couldn't reply to post from my Ps3 as i normally do when I'm home. Other than that I love the new design.
I'm slowing getting used to the new forum layout. I quite like the official Elite theme even though I think the orange-red border colour should really be closer to the yellow-orange of the game's HUD. And it took me a while to figure out how to get my signature working again but that now seems OK.
One thing that seems to be missing is the Join date and Post count on the headers of each message. This was quite useful as in many cases it let you make a quick guesstimate as to whether a poster had been present for alpha, premium beta etc. and so adjust any replies accordingly. It was also useful for those "This game is terrible!" postings: if the guy joined a week ago and only had 3 posts, it was easier to ignore
There are also some pros and cons with the new editor. On the one hand I like that it auto-inserts the appropriate BBCode characters when you press CTRL-I, CTRL-B etc. and gives you a CTRL-Z pseudo-undo function (if you don't mind the cursor jumping to the end of the message). Not quite WYSIWYG but pretty good. On the flip side the right-click spell checker options in Chrome seem to be suppressed. I can see typos underlined but I can't select alternatives or add unknowns to the dictionary which is a bit annoying.
Still, early days. I usually hate change but overall this has not been nearly as horrible as I thought it might
One thing that seems to be missing is the Join date and Post count on the headers of each message. This was quite useful as in many cases it let you make a quick guesstimate as to whether a poster had been present for alpha, premium beta etc. and so adjust any replies accordingly. It was also useful for those "This game is terrible!" postings: if the guy joined a week ago and only had 3 posts, it was easier to ignore
There are also some pros and cons with the new editor. On the one hand I like that it auto-inserts the appropriate BBCode characters when you press CTRL-I, CTRL-B etc. and gives you a CTRL-Z pseudo-undo function (if you don't mind the cursor jumping to the end of the message). Not quite WYSIWYG but pretty good. On the flip side the right-click spell checker options in Chrome seem to be suppressed. I can see typos underlined but I can't select alternatives or add unknowns to the dictionary which is a bit annoying.
Still, early days. I usually hate change but overall this has not been nearly as horrible as I thought it might
Is the database not completely moved over yet of our previous posts.
If I go to the profile of a user and select "Find latest posts" I can see todays history (after the forum update), but then there is a huge jump to sometime back in 2013.
Digging up old nuggets of information from devs that way becomes kind of a hassel...or impossible...
If I go to the profile of a user and select "Find latest posts" I can see todays history (after the forum update), but then there is a huge jump to sometime back in 2013.
Digging up old nuggets of information from devs that way becomes kind of a hassel...or impossible...
rootsrat
Volunteer Moderator
BUG: Polish special characters are not displaying properly. See here (and also my signature)
Now, some feedback:
Positives
- I like the new layout, it looks "clean" and tidy. Looks much more professional than the old forums (I was using one of the non-Elite themes for easier reading)
- "Insert Video" function, finally!
- New Frontier Employees and Moderators colouring in avatar section look really cool.
- Find devs' posts - much needed!
Negatives
- Elite theme is very straining for the eyes. Bright letters on a dark background are much harder to read for prolonged periods of time and if you add orange (which is quite an aggressive colour) borders and icons, it all creates a very reading-unfriendly environment. I don't like it at all, it makes the forums difficult to read. Bad choice IMHO.
- Official Frontier theme is much better. It's easier and less straining to read, however I have a feeling that in-thread view has different colours than forums view. When you read a thread the posts are divided by high contrast black borders, which again makes it quite bad for the eyes.
- I think it would be better and more intuitive if "New Discussions" view defaulted to New Posts rather than Activity Stream. Most of the users would be used to that New Posts view and it's also much easier to look at and see which new posts/threads user wants to visit. We don't need to see every single new post contents by default.
- Still no "Reply To All" button in Private Messages. Very inconvenient :/
OVERALL:
I like the layout and modernisation of the engine, however the new themes are really bad and very inconvenient to read. I used to visit the forums very frequently throughout the day, however now I think I'll have to reduce the time I'm spending here, as the forums are really straining for my eyes (I can already tell - just the time I spend on typing this message made my eyes quite tired and I need a break already. I would prefer a mild, pastel theme, like Version 2 (as far as I remember) from the old forums, which was easy on my eyes and allowed me for longer browsing sessions.
Saying that though, I wanted to also say thanks for your hard work on the new forums, as I know that a lot of work went into it! I tried to be constructive in my feedback, so hopefully it will be useful to you.
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Also, the grey title (International Moderator in my case) is barely visible in conjunction with the blue moderator tint when using Official Frontier Theme.
Now, some feedback:
Positives
- I like the new layout, it looks "clean" and tidy. Looks much more professional than the old forums (I was using one of the non-Elite themes for easier reading)
- "Insert Video" function, finally!
- New Frontier Employees and Moderators colouring in avatar section look really cool.
- Find devs' posts - much needed!
Negatives
- Elite theme is very straining for the eyes. Bright letters on a dark background are much harder to read for prolonged periods of time and if you add orange (which is quite an aggressive colour) borders and icons, it all creates a very reading-unfriendly environment. I don't like it at all, it makes the forums difficult to read. Bad choice IMHO.
- Official Frontier theme is much better. It's easier and less straining to read, however I have a feeling that in-thread view has different colours than forums view. When you read a thread the posts are divided by high contrast black borders, which again makes it quite bad for the eyes.
- I think it would be better and more intuitive if "New Discussions" view defaulted to New Posts rather than Activity Stream. Most of the users would be used to that New Posts view and it's also much easier to look at and see which new posts/threads user wants to visit. We don't need to see every single new post contents by default.
- Still no "Reply To All" button in Private Messages. Very inconvenient :/
OVERALL:
I like the layout and modernisation of the engine, however the new themes are really bad and very inconvenient to read. I used to visit the forums very frequently throughout the day, however now I think I'll have to reduce the time I'm spending here, as the forums are really straining for my eyes (I can already tell - just the time I spend on typing this message made my eyes quite tired and I need a break already. I would prefer a mild, pastel theme, like Version 2 (as far as I remember) from the old forums, which was easy on my eyes and allowed me for longer browsing sessions.
Saying that though, I wanted to also say thanks for your hard work on the new forums, as I know that a lot of work went into it! I tried to be constructive in my feedback, so hopefully it will be useful to you.
::EDIT::
Also, the grey title (International Moderator in my case) is barely visible in conjunction with the blue moderator tint when using Official Frontier Theme.
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issue that I have found aswell as my feedback.
issues:
Signature links don't work on the image, my current signature should link to another part of the forum but doesn't.
also can I ask that the Federation Logo be changed to this, as it is with the square flag looks a little naff.
all previous posts that contain my signature and are not showing. this needs to be looked at for all other forum members aswell.
another opinion for the forum is to increase the font size for thread titles as when looking at the new style everything just blends into all other text. thread titles are difficult to view at a glance and should really stand out a little more.
when avatar and signature are updated all previous posts are not updated.
not overly keen on the width of the forum as its no different to every other forum style out on the internet.(edit) found the constraint view in the options.)
good points,
love that the inbox has been increased to 1000, it was a pin to keep emptying my inbox constantly.
like that avatar images have increased in size.
like that a video link have been added.
just adding a test for this purpose
[video=youtube;XBucs041Cng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBucs041Cng[/video]
issues:
Signature links don't work on the image, my current signature should link to another part of the forum but doesn't.
also can I ask that the Federation Logo be changed to this, as it is with the square flag looks a little naff.
all previous posts that contain my signature and are not showing. this needs to be looked at for all other forum members aswell.
another opinion for the forum is to increase the font size for thread titles as when looking at the new style everything just blends into all other text. thread titles are difficult to view at a glance and should really stand out a little more.
when avatar and signature are updated all previous posts are not updated.
not overly keen on the width of the forum as its no different to every other forum style out on the internet.(edit) found the constraint view in the options.)
good points,
love that the inbox has been increased to 1000, it was a pin to keep emptying my inbox constantly.
like that avatar images have increased in size.
like that a video link have been added.
just adding a test for this purpose
[video=youtube;XBucs041Cng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBucs041Cng[/video]
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Brett C
Frontier
Sorry for the delay, for a while there I couldn't post at all - Teething problems, I suspect.
2) Official Elite theme, HTTPS. Now using the new constrained theme of the same, and the buttons do seem to be click to activate now. I'll give the non-constrained version another whirl and report back. [Edit] Nope, fixed there too.
3) Now being on my desktop instead of my laptop, the color looks a bit less harsh. Definitely looks orange instead of red now. Unless you already went and changed something.
6) Sneaky mods stealing our space! That space only seems to be there for users who have a signature though, if you look three posts above this one there's no such gap (or at least it's smaller) [Edit: Or it WAS smaller until he edited his post. Now the gap has appeared again due to the edit notification]. It would be nice if it could be eliminated somehow for a little less vertical scrolling when reading a thread.
Oh, and a quick note: Just in the time it took me to drive home and check back on my desktop, the forums already feel more polished, with lots of little changes I'm noticing. That's some fast work
Thanks for the feedback thus far. The only change i've done on the elite theme is reduce the amount of 'see-through' on the black background.
I'll give it a peek at a point here soon, sounds like something else is showing up that shouldn't be.
Taking a whack at this little issue now. Am awaiting the forums rebuild to finish.
I'll check this out over on my mobile here soon, I have a Samsung Note 2.
This is a bit off-topic to this thread.No, wait, I see the user online user list now...
There are currently 17 moderators knocking about...that's not overkill, is it?
Users who are bold named on the forums can be either Employees at Frontier or volunteer moderators. I haven't decided on a happy medium for coloring of usernames or attaching an icon for the respective user groups.
It's a global setting, I've reduced the time from 10 minutes to 5 minutes. I think that seems to be a bit more sensible.
I'm really afraid to edit those templates on vBulletin. I'm personally not too familiar with how vbulletin formats the code on the backend for hybrid.
Interesting, will poke around a bit with it.
That was a setting that I overlooked today when transferring the settings file over. Got that fixed.
Known issue, I plan on expanding the system to the activity page and search page in the future. Search.php page is a jumbled mess of garbage, both on the front end and back end. :/
Ozric
Volunteer Moderator
Thanks, we shall see what others think, but I still wonder if 5 minutes is actually too long? It only happens if you're posting in the same thread and I would imagine that if you wanted the messages merged you would do a multiquote, but we shall see.
Thanks a lot for that one.
Brett C
Frontier
HI Brett,
looks like your working hard tonight,
Can i add my 2 penneth and ask you to turn down the red a bit? it's a bit bright .... keep up the good work
edit: i can see my infraction history underneath my avatar on posts. can everyone see my various misdemeanours ?
It's on my sights to tweak a bit.
As for the infraction history... that should only be visible to moderators and administrators. Non-moderators or admins should not be able to see that. :|
I find the icons too big. There is also a little too orange and red in the forum
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Hi, i'm still having posting issues. I'm using win8.1 tablet, explorer11 in 'metro' mode.
When i click reply the on screen keyboard won't stay up. I have to use reply with quote, then delete the quote.
Thanks.
When i click reply the on screen keyboard won't stay up. I have to use reply with quote, then delete the quote.
Thanks.
Any chance the new forum software supports the ISO_8601 date format, even as an optional feature, now?
Brett C
Frontier
Last I heard from IT at Frontier, the forum search rebuild will take around 12 hours to complete.
For the time being, try to not use the HTTPS version of the forums. http://forums.frontier.co.uk should be fine, let me know if it still tosses out errors.
Sweet - that seems to have cured my problems! Muchas gracias, amigo!
