J&J is an adenovirus vector like AZ. It's the adenovirus component that is likely the cause of clotting. Same vector, same problems. Don't need to wait for reports to start rolling in to know it'll have the same problems. Science!J&J is newer on the market.
A little time for the injections reports.
General / Off-Topic The Covid vaccine must be mandatory ?
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I wonder if there will be the same outcry about the vaccines being sold for ten times the price rather than at cost
.It's pointless asking people not to explain verifiable facts to you.No problem for me.
Without AZ I do not ask myself the question of the gun.
Please do not come with your probabilities of catching the virus. It's much more nuanced than raw statistics, according to the personal situation of each.
Everyone is free to play Russian roulette.
I know, so we’ll see if there will be really differences.
There is certainly already a difference in the manufacture, because J&J only requires a single dose.
Indeed.
The only verifiable facts that really matter are the deaths due to the vaccine.
And the personal situation of each (Environment, health, lifestyle etc ...).
The Spanish Constitutional Court on Tuesday suspended a law taken by authorities in the Galicia region which required its inhabitants to be vaccinated against Covid-19, judicial sources reported.
Never mind the verifiable facts, that really matter, are the deaths due to the Virus.Indeed.
The only verifiable facts that really matter are the deaths due to the vaccine.
And the personal situation of each (Environment, health, lifestyle etc ...).
I was wondering: What odds are acceptable to you. I mean the risk factor of the OZ vaccine, causing a blood clot, is about 400,000 to 1. So what would you be happy to accept? A million to one, five million to one, five hundred million to one, 5 billion; when do you say, OK, that is acceptable?
Source it then.
And the personal situation of each (Environment, health, lifestyle etc ...).
Being unvaccinated is the most dangerous self inflicted comorbidity there is now for people in the vulnerable groups.
Sent him 60 Euro worth of currency. 6=1,000,000.
My 10,000,000 Euro retirement fund should be paid to le Paris Deutchebank, where I can go pretend to be Msr. Bourne, Jason Bourne.
See? Investing is easy!
Shush. France, has become the 1st E.U. state, to approve a vaccine passport. Don't tell pat.Sent him 60 Euro worth of currency. 6=1,000,000.
My 10,000,000 Euro retirement fund should be paid to le Paris Deutchebank, where I can go pretend to be Msr. Bourne, Jason Bourne.
See? Investing is easy!
I do not frequent the vulnerable groups.
And in my country (as in yours) priority has been given to vulnerable groups for the vaccination.
So no problem on this side.
People in vulnerable groups who are serious cases or are dying now are people who have not decided to be vaccinated to date.
In my country 70% of people in retirement homes were vaccinated.
The 30% are refractory to vaccines. In France there are enough vaccines for this 30%.
I don't think that prevents you from sleeping at night, or going for a pint in the pub to have a laugh with your friends.
Like the millions of road deaths each year, or the millions of deaths, from pollution each year (8 millions).
You don't think I'm going to have a nervous breakdown because there are millions of morons in India, Brazil, America or elsewhere who gather without masks, without barrier gestures to participate in festivals of colors or religious festivals ?
Be serious.
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This is part of the problem.
Another part is this unbearable attitude of some who is to try to impose a vaccine and in addition with mathematical and statistical arguments. An insult to the human intelligence. A form of single thought dictatorship.
This is part of the problem.
Another part is this unbearable attitude of some who is to try to impose a vaccine and in addition with mathematical and statistical arguments. An insult to the human intelligence. A form of single thought dictatorship.
You do not have to take any vaccine and risk your health.
I will do it, and stand between you and the illness.
(It is the least I can do, after you pay the 10 million in exchange for the sixty. Do not fear! I will absolutely not waste it on buying St. Vincent. Cmdr Syncreto is paying for that. This is for macarons. )
This is part of the problem.
Another part is this unbearable attitude of some who is to try to impose a vaccine and in addition with mathematical and statistical arguments. An insult to the human intelligence. A form of single thought dictatorship.
You are going to put yourself at risk just to spite people for being demonstrably right ?. That's a somewhat daft attitude even when there isn't a pandemic going on.
actually, the cc has simply admitted the appeal of unconstitutionality of parts of the local law, made by the central government, thus the articles in question are now temporarily suspended while they deliberate on the matter. the principal point of contention is that this should be a state wide law and not a local norm, and negotiation between both governments is still on the table. which means: it's just a political show.
the situation is more or less like this: the central government is absolutely inoperant in anything relating to the pandemic, and while most autonomous communities are trying their best to manage, and some very hard, the central government just throws every stick they can into their wheels simply to get into the spotlight. except madrid which has gone completely rogue, voids all distancing measures, blatantly fakes their appalling death stats and openly defies the central government, but since it is the capital and the home of the far right deep state (we're talking real power here) the "socialist" central government can't do squat about it. but they can take it out on galicia, and of course if anything goes wrong it's catalonia's fault!
i can understand you personally refusing to get az.It's much more nuanced than raw statistics, according to the personal situation of each.
you still should be able to understand that a vaccine with side-effects as az is still better than no vaccine, in the big picture.
then again, like i already told you, next time you need to undergo surgery for whatever reason i suggest you refuse to get anesthesia, the probability of that killing you is orders of magnitude greater than getting clots from az.
Microchips. It changes your DNA and makes you into a satanist. It's "experimental". It has dead babies in it. A book written two thousand years ago specifically forbids it. Healthcare is communism.
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