General / Off-Topic The Covid vaccine must be mandatory ?

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The European Commission is considering legal action against AstraZeneca, whose vaccine deliveries are significantly lower than originally planned.

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If the UK was still in the European Union, it would not need to negotiate a vaccination passport with compulsory vaccination.

And there would be fewer restrictions on freedom in the UK. :)

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Well yeah, if we were still in the EU and had an extremely restricted vaccine supply then clearly a vaccination passport would be kind of moot and we'd be in the middle of some sort of "wave."

But thankfully that isn't the case so our freedoms are becoming less restricted.
The European Commission is considering legal action against AstraZeneca, whose vaccine deliveries are significantly lower than originally planned.

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Makes sense - let's consider legal action against a company for not delivering something that we absolutely don't want under any circumstances.
 
Well yeah, if we were still in the EU and had an extremely restricted vaccine supply then clearly a vaccination passport would be kind of moot and we'd be in the middle of some sort of "wave."

But thankfully that isn't the case so our freedoms are becoming less restricted.
Well with this graph today it looks like half of the British are deprived of their liberty, if the vaccination is compulsory in your country to leave the country, to go soak feet by the sea in Greece

And much more if we take into account only vaccinated at full strength with two doses.


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But fondamentally, it's not really important.

As in most Western countries, very many people never go abroad on vacation.

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The amount of vaccines the army pumped me full of that the general population neither saw nor knew about... no thanks. Most of the vaccines I have taken were discontinued and in some cases illegal to give now due to deaths / severe problems caused by them.
 
Makes sense - let's consider legal action against a company for not delivering something that we absolutely don't want under any circumstances.
But it is not the European Union that does not want AZ. These are the peoples. It's not the same thing.

The European Union surely wants to use AZ for the Covax program.

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Well with this graph today it looks like half of the British are deprived of their liberty, if the vaccination is compulsory in your country to leave the country, to go soak feet by the sea in Greece

And much more if we take into account only vaccinated at full strength with two doses.


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But fondamentally, it's not really important.

As in most Western countries, very many people never go abroad on vacation.

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Well currently Greece isn't on the red list.

But seriously, if your idea of freedom is being able to visit a country where you have to wipe your and stick the paper in a bin then I dunno, maybe "freedom" is overrated..
 
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But it is not the European Union that does not want AZ. These are the peoples. It's not the same thing.

The European Union surely wants to use AZ for the Covax program.

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So Macron and other EU country leaders are now recommending AZ?

They don't want it for their own citizens but they're happy to send it off to the poor peeps - that's very decent of them.
 
The amount of vaccines the army pumped me full of that the general population neither saw nor knew about... no thanks. Most of the vaccines I have taken were discontinued and in some cases illegal to give now due to deaths / severe problems caused by them.
I remember my army vaccination. :eek:

Unforgettable :)

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So Macron and other EU country leaders are now recommending AZ?

They don't want it for their own citizens but they're happy to send it off to the poor peeps - that's very decent of them.
No way, they try to convince people 55 and older to use AZ, but they have difficulty in convincing.

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No way, they try to convince people 55 and older to use AZ, but they have difficulty in convincing.

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Well if your president is a fool and your people don't understand numbers then that makes perfect sense.
Excuse my bad English but I don't understand this sentence :unsure:

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Well unfortunately the filter removed a crucial word - wipe your .... According to Google In French it would be the orifice that produces ..

Hah - the filter also takes the French word out - poop - number 2's
 
Well unfortunately the filter removed a crucial word - wipe your .... According to Google In French it would be the orifice that produces ..

Hah - the filter also takes the French word out - poop - number 2's
I feel like we're not talking about the same thing.

I understood that the British have an obligation to be vaccinated if they want to travel by plane and went abroad. But maybe I misunderstood.

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I feel like we're not talking about the same thing.

I understood that the British have an obligation to be vaccinated if they want to travel by plane and went abroad. But maybe I misunderstood.

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It's entirely possible.

I thought you were complaining about the bouzouki player.
 
No the bouzouki is friendly. :)

Well if the British have the obligation to be vaccinated to take the plane and go abroad, it is indeed a restriction of freedom.

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Well if restricting travel for the time being helps contain potentially more dangerous variants then I think that's a good thing especially if it means more domestic normality.

If having 50 weeks of normality at home means sacrificing 2 weeks abroad then I'll take that - for the time being.

Of course you do realise that we're not being stopped from doing anything - you, me, anyone can literally do whatever we want - as long we are prepared to pay the price when/if the bill turns up.

If you can only do something when you have advanced permission - well that's not really freedom is it?
 
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