Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

S. Belmont

S. Belmont
[VR] Golgot said:
Enjoy, and let us know how you go :)

On earning meaningful cash with a starter ship, you might be best off just walking around in space pajamas and picking up pity gifts though ;)

An experienced backer tried his hand at it, using nothing but a starter Aurora. The last anyone heard of him he'd lost all his cash to bugs several times over...

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyNLz3szd-U


Probably best off just mucking about, poking the missions, and seeing how it plays generally.
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Well, I wouldn't even think about it if I didn't think it was possible. Which I really think it is now, without pity gifts. But it is not possible, for me atleast, to do it before Odyssey goes live. Like said, I don't know how much I'm willing to invest my time in Star Citizen after Odyssey goes live.

And yes, I've been following Star Citizen for a long while, I don't think very high about it or it's developement or it's funding. I test it about once in a year. I was genuinely surprised about it this time around.
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
S. Belmont said:
Well, I wouldn't even think about it if I didn't think it was possible.
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I'm sure it is possible. It just seems to be a path paved with pain going by that guy's experiences ;)

Most guys who earn ships in game seem to have bought themselves at least a few steps up the ladder first with real cash. Helps to have multiple ships and increased capacities when bouncing back from bugs and targeting bigger payouts etc.

EDIT: Would be interested in hearing how you go if you give it a run though :). (I’m definitely not suggesting you give them more cash ;))
 
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Red Martian

Red Martian
[VR] Golgot said:
I'm sure it is possible. It just seems to be a path paved with pain going by that guy's experiences ;)

Most guys who earn ships in game seem to have bought themselves at least a few steps up the ladder first with real cash. Helps to have multiple ships and increased capacities when bouncing back from bugs and targeting bigger payouts etc.
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SC is most definitely pay to win as long as you get in before the game's release which (glances at development timeline)... is NOT a problem whatsoever.

I have a Hercules C2, with enough cargo capacity to make me a millionaire (once they fix the in-game trading) in short order, and I have an Avenger Titan for small deliveries and just puttering around the system if I don't want to do that. There are people who have Caterpillars, Carracks, Hammerheads, Moles, all larger vessels that cost millions to purchase in game. There will be people buying Javelins, and who own 890 Jumps, and will easily be able to make a fortune (again, assuming the loops are working and the game is finished).

I could stop playing now, and wait until the release, and then hop in and be a hundred steps ahead of every new player.
 

Intrepid3D

Intrepid3D
aUEC owned ships:

Freelancer MIS, Anvil Arrow, Vanguard Sentinel, MSIC Prospector, Hornet F7C-M (Super Hornet)
Vehicles: USER Rover, Tumbril Cyclone of some variant, a hover bike thingy..

A #### tonne of Armour, Guns and Ammo, just about everything going...

Plus real money ships i own, MSR and 325A modified.

Took me 1 year to gather all that, still haven't had my account reset, i think i've given away about 8 Million to friends and new players who got stuck.
 
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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Intrepid3D said:
aUEC owned ships:

Freelancer MIS, Anvil Arrow, Vanguard Sentinel, MSIC Prospector, Hornet F7C-M (Super Hornet)
Vehicles: USER Rover, Tumbril Cyclone of some variant, a hover bike thingy..

A #### tonne of Armour, Guns and Ammo, just about everything going...

Plus real money ships i own, MSR and 325A modified.

Took me 1 year to gather all that, still haven't had my account reset, i think i've given away about 8 Million to friends and new players who got stuck.
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Ok but question:

Did you earn any of them while still only having the base package? Or did you earn them having bought at least one ship? [And if so which one(s) had you bought?]
 

Intrepid3D

Intrepid3D
[VR] Golgot said:
Ok but question:

Did you earn any of them while still only having the base package? Or did you earn them having bought at least one ship? [And if so which one(s) had you bought?]
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Starting with an Aurora or a Mustang that would be challenging, the Aurora is near useless, its no good for combat so bounties are out of the question, all you can do with it is play space postman, the Mustang is even less useful.

My advice is always get the Avenger Titan as a starter, at $45 it is more expensive but its a capable fighter and it has a small amount of cargo for trading, with it you can earn enough money in good time to buy better ships in game.

Best earners are Mining, surface and space, or if you have the skill NPC bounty hunting, as you gain reputation the NPC bounties available to you pay higher, and get more difficult, the highest you can do with a single fighter is 70,000 eUEC bounties, higher than that you get Hammerheads and no single fighter can deal with them, no matter how good you are.
Mining, if you can find Quantinum you can earn up to 300,000 aUEC per Prospector load, but its volatile stuff, be careful.
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Intrepid3D said:
Starting with an Aurora or a Mustang that would be challenging, the Aurora is near useless, its no good for combat so bounties are out of the question, all you can do with it is play space postman, the Mustang is even less useful.

My advice is always get the Avenger Titan as a starter, at $45 it is more expensive but its a capable fighter and it has a small amount of cargo for trading, with it you can earn enough money in good time to buy better ships in game.

Best earners are Mining, surface and space, or if you have the skill NPC bounty hunting, as you gain reputation the NPC bounties available to you pay higher, and get more difficult, the highest you can do with a single fighter is 70,000 eUEC bounties, higher than that you get Hammerheads and no single fighter can deal with them, no matter how good you are.
Mining, if you can find Quantinum you can earn up to 300,000 aUEC per Prospector load, but its volatile stuff, be careful.
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Yeah that's the thing. There's this meme that 'the base game is all you need to buy'. But really, given the instability of the alpha, and the limitations of the starter ships, it just doesn't seem to be the case.

The Titan does seem to be a popular one though yeah. So $100 $70 is all you need to get started in the alpha ;)
 
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Red Martian

Red Martian
Intrepid3D said:
Starting with an Aurora or a Mustang that would be challenging, the Aurora is near useless, its no good for combat so bounties are out of the question, all you can do with it is play space postman, the Mustang is even less useful.

My advice is always get the Avenger Titan as a starter, at $45 it is more expensive but its a capable fighter and it has a small amount of cargo for trading, with it you can earn enough money in good time to buy better ships in game.

Best earners are Mining, surface and space, or if you have the skill NPC bounty hunting, as you gain reputation the NPC bounties available to you pay higher, and get more difficult, the highest you can do with a single fighter is 70,000 eUEC bounties, higher than that you get Hammerheads and no single fighter can deal with them, no matter how good you are.
Mining, if you can find Quantinum you can earn up to 300,000 aUEC per Prospector load, but its volatile stuff, be careful.
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The Titan Avenger starter pack is $70.
The Titan Avenger by itself is now $55.
 

Intrepid3D

Intrepid3D
Coloratura said:
The Titan Avenger starter pack is $70.
The Titan Avenger by itself is now $55.
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My bad its been a while since i looked, yes its $70, I don't know how much it is to upgrade to the Titan if you already have the base stater pack, probably about $20.
I do think that's a bit too expensive, it is the ship you need for a proper start and if we are talking about the average AAA game price, is what? $60? for a game very much in Alpha, it should be $40 as a buy in to get you started properly.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Intrepid3D said:
My bad its been a while since i looked, yes its $70, I don't know how much it is to upgrade to the Titan if you already have the base stater pack, probably about $20.
I do think that's a bit too expensive, it is the ship you need for a proper start and if we are talking about the average AAA game price, is what? $60? for a game very much in Alpha, it should be $40 as a buy in to get you started properly.
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And that's how it starts. Just buy in for a small amount, but then see something a bit bigger for a little bit more, then CIG have a "sale" and you can now get something else for a "reasonable" price, and so on it goes, and before you know it, you have a monocle and top hat in game and people are calling you a whale.

A few years later you are telling people that if you average it out its only like paying a subscription for another game and you've had more fun in the alpha for the last 5 years than you have had in any AAA game and that there is more content in a single crater in SC than in the whole of Skyrim!
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
S. Belmont said:
Renting ships is also a viable way to make money.
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Yeah that’s the mechanism that YTer was using, but stability issues meant he was losing his money each time. (Like getting 30ked, then his vehicle being unrecoverable. Stuff like that. Lost his earnings, ability to earn more, and just had to eat the rental bill. Leaving him wiped out etc.)

Just saying, it doesn’t seem to be plain sailing.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
This is the sort of thing you say when you have become one of the faithful

The original development started in late 2012/ early 2013. The original development was SQ42 as a singleplayer game only - This is what the third party was developing.

This was dropped after the PU vote, and the development we have today then started.

So lets be clear about the wording - The project has been going 10 years, the current development has been going 5. Specific, accurate language is important, we wouldn't want to misrepresent anything, eh?
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A total retcon of history.

As has been said before: In the minds of the faithful the past is unknown and changeable, the future is certain and known.
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
S. Belmont said:
I never implied it would be easy. I just realized while playing that it is possible.
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Cool well report back if you give it a go :)

(I genuinely want to hear about someone earning a ship via a starter package. It seems to involve not just standard game designed grind, but enough stability setbacks that hardly anyone grits their way through it).
 
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