Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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You said earning ships should be hard but other players can just buy them, and already have. That's how they got to $350 million.
Do in-game bought ships survive a character reset?
True, and we're still years out. People are paying obscene prices to play in a buggy Alpha.
This is exactly the problem. Back in 2018, six years into development, I bought a game package with an RSI Aurora for $45. Six months later, I upgraded to a Freelancer. Then a Constellation Taurus (with the Andromeda as the loaner). In that time, I also bought an RSI Ursa Rover so I could put it in my Connie and explore the moons. I felt this was a complete package, and was good for a while. Then the Mecury Star Runner was advertised. It was pushed as the Millennium Falcon of the SC universe, and as a Star Wars nerd, I wanted it. So I melted my Connie and rover to get it. When it came out, it was pretty good, though it suffered from many bugs, like falling through in QT (a problem still not addressed since I first bought my game package in 2018), among other things. I didn't fly it much as a result, and took a break. Then the Hercules C2 was announced, so I melted the MSR and used those credits to get the Hercules C2. Will I like it? As I said before, I probably will, but in all of this, it becomes clear that there's nothing for any of these ships to do, so people keep buying because they're hoping to find the ship that finally feels like it can do what needs to be done in the game universe, but despite being told there's mining, trading, and combat, all of those loops are severely limited, and so it just leads to more dissatisfaction.
What people want, when they're buying these ships, is a completed game, and all CIG has to offer them are more ships. Now, I haven't spent a penny since I upgraded to the MSR, and I've already vowed to never spend another until the game is complete, and I will hold to it, because CIG has nothing to offer but more promises, more ships around the corner, and they'll keep doing it as long as people keep buying with homesteads coming soon for the low low price of a couple hundred dollars for your own piece of the SC universe, and the game will never be complete when they can just keep running their business on space NFTs.
If you are going to recommend people "buy in" to a scam, at least warn them it's a scam.
Or pre-alpha playable now game in a buggy barely playable state for last 10 years. Whatever you want to call it.
Don't do it. It's a scam.
Buy some Onlyfans instead. At least you'll get some release out of it (heyheeey). Cheaper too.
Plus, you're helping good people make an income.
Not sure what to say. I once believed that SC is a scam too. But it is not.
Star Citizen is an anomaly. It is a strange creation and has almost creepy vibe at times that comes through from the almost insanely detailed corridors, shops and concourses, npc's. Not necessarily from the game it self but from beyond the fourth wall. From the place where the Hatmaker lives. He creates trolleys, coffee cups with fluidphysics, shops where you can buy jeans, shoes and leather jackets. Many different styles. In space stations. He needs money to keep on going, creating, visioning.
And people stand on chairs. And people stand inside each other. People crawl in stairs and die. People push trolleys and explode.
It's weird, it would not be possible without so many things going wrong or so many things going right, depends who you ask.
Some pour money in it. For some it is a dream. For some it has become a nightmare. Some love it. Some hate it.
I just play it. Every once in a while.
Star Citizen is an anomaly. It is a strange creation and has almost creepy vibe at times that comes through from the almost insanely detailed corridors, shops and concourses, npc's. Not necessarily from the game it self but from beyond the fourth wall. From the place where the Hatmaker lives. He creates trolleys, coffee cups with fluidphysics, shops where you can buy jeans, shoes and leather jackets. Many different styles. In space stations. He needs money to keep on going, creating, visioning.
And people stand on chairs. And people stand inside each other. People crawl in stairs and die. People push trolleys and explode.
It's weird, it would not be possible without so many things going wrong or so many things going right, depends who you ask.
Some pour money in it. For some it is a dream. For some it has become a nightmare. Some love it. Some hate it.
I just play it. Every once in a while.
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It is. Chris was lying from day one. They concentrate on the visuals because it's a confidence scam.
That's why the most recent roadmap update, eight years in, added ships and removed ship interior culling.
My thoughts exactly. It has a lot of faults, cost to play it is not one of them, at least not to the extent some people seem to think it, a lot of people enjoy it, others might too if given half a chance.
Development is very slow and grinding, but it is moving forward, it is a different game today than it was two years ago, its very different to what it was 4 years ago.
I don't spend anymore money on it, i don't need to, i'm happy to play it and watch it evolve.
What? it costs $70 to get a proper start, you don't need to spend any more than that to get the full experience.
Bruh, you really need to read between the lines. Much too gullible. Must be how scams get you.
Why does it cost $70 to get a proper start in a pre-alpha? Why is it more expensive than actual released, reviewed, games?
I said all this, some people go on about pay to win, or as if it costs hundreds to get the full experience, it isn't and it doesn't.
If you just want to marvel at the assets as they blend and swirl, to the syncopation of the ice cube physics and its mysterious whims, then sure. It’s fine. (It was never your $350m anyway
)But if you’ve bought a $3k Javelin and expect it to exist as advertised? Or a science exploration craft with modular farm and functioning particle accelerator?
Or hell, even 2014’s Squadron 42?
Then hmm. That kaleidoscope of trolley physics doesn’t really seem like paid dues
You will friend. You absolutely will.
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You buy into it with a $70 package, with that you earn your in game money to buy whatever else, that's it.
I went to an engineer with a 45 Million Credits Krait MKII, was spotted by a player who didn't like the look of me, from the first shield impacts to my ship being completely disabled was 3 seconds, is that pay to win? or do i just need to grind more with what i have to meet this guy on equal terms?
If you just want to marvel at the assets as they blend and swirl, to the syncopation of the ice cube physics and its mysterious whims, then sure. It’s fine. It was never your $350m anyway
But if you’ve bought a $3k Javelin and expect it to exist as advertised? Or a science exploration craft with modular farm and functioning particle accelerator?
Or hell, even 2014’s Squadron 42?
Then hmm. That kaleidoscope of trolley physics doesn’t really seem like paid dues
You will
Not for about 2 years, i have $350 in the game, i don't want anything bigger than an MSR or a Connie, if something new in that size category comes along that i like more than the Connie, now the MSR, i'll melt it and use the store credits to buy it.
not only the visuals…
I’m quite sure some of the features mentioned on the kickstarter will not make it on the final product…. like for example
- Single Player – Offline or Online(Drop in / Drop out co-op play)
- Mod-able multiplayer (hosted by YOU)
I could also mention how CR went from I have some investor interested in the project but we need to demonstrate that there is interest on the game (kickstarter)… but then: give me more money so I can do this without investors… and then back to: ooh yeah, investors are good… more money for the project!!!! But I can be bothered to find the sources of those claims sooo…
Yeah you say that. But CIG are aware of players like you. Any tempting side steps they add will invite a little extra pay in. Some novel temptation will be ring-fenced from store credit or in-game acquisition (land claims perhaps). They’ll keep looking for ways to prise that little step more out of you.
And eventually you’ll bite. Even if it’s just that $10 here, that $20 there.
Because your fundamental frustration with CIG is just slowness. You think the end games are ultimately achievable, but just taking a long time to arrive.
Why not reward them for opening up a second system? It’s progress at last. And that new Crusader number handles the Jump Point way better than your MSR. Plus those QT times, damn. So useful for Pyro’s distribution, and really messes with that piracy threat. The iridescent paint just rounds it off...
Nah man. You’re just on pause I’m afraid.
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I know I'd get a lot more enjoyment out of it, too. Way less teasing me with those jpgs.