[Summary Thread] Removed and Missing Information in Elite: Odyssey

Odyssey System map doesn't show the full population number. It's merely showing the same number as GalMap, which is going to be something like "4.1 million" instead of the full "4.123.456", for example.
Maybe because most systems wouldn't have the technical resources or inclination to track their population down to a single person? :)
I'm currently living on world, Sol 3 (aka Earth), that would be lucky to get a population estimate accurate to the nearest million. The "4.1 million" would be a much more realistic representation of what you would see in this context.
 
The 'Pledge Star' is missing from the Station Services menu meaning a Power cannot verify if a Commander is pledged to a Power or not.

The Pledge Star appears before the Power's name in the Horizons' station services UI…

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But is not present in Odyssey…
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CMDR Justinian Octavius
 
Just checking the obvious, did you actually click into the passenger lounge? or was that greyed out/not accessible?

It was inacessible to me on thursday morning at Donar's Oak, but that was also just before the weekly PP/BGS tick, so for me that might have played into it.
Sure. I was definitely in the passenger lounge. I'd tried this several times over at two different stations, thinking that maybe one of them was just bugged out. If memory serves me right this was after the first hotfix patch, but before the second. Haven't tried again since as I've been doing planetary missions instead and trying to dial in my settings.
 
Surface settlements are missing the landing pad size in the sysmap settlement info. This is important for traders to know if they can dock in the settlement to trade.
I have added this to info that was already missing. I don't think this was anywhere in Horizons, no?

About modules: just do yourself the exercise and try to change a module.
Before we could easily compare changes (powerplant power, jump range, etc).

We had all ship info immediately available in one glimpse. Now, we need to browse 4 small pages on the lower part of the screen.
Some comparison screenshots would help to show how bad it is. That might enable me to formulate an entry.

As well as functionality issues, look into the bugs and glitches on the UI where it isn't displaying the information it should be correctly. not game breaking, but certainly doesn't help.
Let's get a bit more concrete here...

Port UI
  • Incorrect port allegiance depicted
  • Incorrect Economy symbol or background depicted (this was in Alpha, require a confirmation that this is still in the current built)
  • Incorrect mission giver names depicted (different in mission boards and port main menu)
  • Faction state names displayed without spacing

Suit Customization
  • Attachments and Decal groups inconveniently (hard to navigate)
  • Misleading or wrong preview pictures on attachment categories

Anything else?

When buys onfoot gear I can't see any way to know what onfoot gear I've already bought ? Maybe I'm missing something but didn't want to spend the price of a small ship on a weapon that I already own! ( does it tell you if you try and do that ? )
The whole lack of access to inventory when on foot as annoying ( unless I'm just missing some bind somewhere or maybe one of the myriad of new and ambiguous icons scarred all over the new UI's has something on ).

On the maps, the Click and hold takes just as long or longer then the click to trigger popup menu and the click to plot. Now there is no popup menu then the other task that were just there on the popup menu are now scattered over various new icons to the right, so you have to move the mouse to the side of the screen to get to them - which again takes a second or two longer than it used to
Added lack of inventory to the list.
I am still reluctant to add the missing pop-up window, since that seems t be an elaborate design decision rather than a case of information or a tool being inaccessible.
I'll try to think of a wording that would qualify an entry.

When you're in normal space and you target a station, outpost, or base you can see what faction owns that asset. This is not true of settlements. No matter who owns a settlement in my home system I see the system controller as the owner of the settlement. This is leading to unexpected wars.

The only workaround seems to be to visit each settlement and take notes on their controlling factions, which is not what I'd call optimal.
I'll test this myself and add it.

System states all the same when viewed in gal map, reported here and 1 confirmation

Included.
 
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Odyssey System map doesn't show the full population number. It's merely showing the same number as GalMap, which is going to be something like "4.1 million" instead of the full "4.123.456", for example.
I'll investigate this. Do you have more information?

Progress bars toward unlocking suit/equipment engineers are missing. Petra Olmanova for example shows a progress bar if you're not an Expert combat pilot showing how close to the rank you are. The suit engineers (at least the first three) do not have these.
Will investigate and add once I have a bit more information.

Included as referral ticket.

The 'Pledge Star' is missing from the Station Services menu meaning a Power cannot verify if a Commander is pledged to a Power or not.
The Pledge Star appears before the Power's name in the Horizons' station services UI…
But is not present in Odyssey…
Added. Thanks for creating the ticket.
 
I have added this to info that was already missing. I don't think this was anywhere in Horizons, no?


Some comparison screenshots would help to show how bad it is. That might enable me to formulate an entry.


Let's get a bit more concrete here...

Port UI
  • Incorrect port allegiance depicted
  • Incorrect Economy symbol or background depicted (this was in Alpha, require a confirmation that this is still in the current built)
  • Incorrect mission giver names depicted (different in mission boards and port main menu)
  • Faction state names displayed without spacing

Suit Customization
  • Attachments and Decal groups inconveniently (hard to navigate)
  • Misleading or wrong preview pictures on attachment categories

Text overflows the space given "...which means there"
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Suit customisation preview pictures reset after making selections - This was after making all the changes and returning to the loadout page
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Again, text overflows - "[AVG. Value:" & "[RARITY"
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And again, this time on the ship UI
"AVAILABL
E"
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Although this seems to have fixed itself after looking at different tabs -
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...But might have just moved...
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[MalRandom] probably shouldn't be there
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Does the Galaxy Map still show the old values?
Both galaxy maps (Odyssey and Horizons) show the truncated values - in this case it would be the rounded "10.0 billion", no change here. The information that has been reduced is specifically on the Odyssey system maps.
 
While attempting to look at some of the submissions in Horizons vs. Odyssey I ran into the problem that overwrites keybinds with the default ones.
Unfortunately none of my backups would work, so I spent the last couple hours on recreating my keymap. Out of time now to update the post til tomorrow.

I hope this issue is fixed soon. It's very disruptive to investigation of entries.
 
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When exiting stations in Odyssey, you no longer know which side is the correct side to exit the mail slot - as the green (right side) and red (left side) lights have been removed.
EDIT - Correction. The lights are present in Odyssey. However, they are very dim and you can barely see them.
 
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When exiting stations in Odyssey, you no longer know which side is the correct side to exit the mail slot - as the green (right side) and red (left side) lights have been removed.
EDIT - Correction. The lights are present in Odyssey. However, they are very dim and you can barely see them.
Thought i was the only one noticing that. Really does point towards their new lighting system being broken.
 
System map info missing.

The system description is missing from the system map when you first open it.

To view it now you have to click on the 'View System Map' icon, then click on the 'System Information' icon. Two extra clicks for something that should be displayed from the Gal Map, like it was in Horizons.

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It should look like this from the Gal Map, we shouldn't have to navigate extra screens with extra clicks to see it.

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Edit:

Here's a link to the ticket if anyone wants to add to it, or upvote it.

 
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