Has the hysteria died down yet?

Right, now show me the fatalities caused by Odyssey's issues, or are we counting grandstanding hissy fits as casualties now?
It's not about the severity of the consequences. It's just that even when the consequences are particularly severe, most of companies are unable to deliver a quality product without external constraints.
 
It's not about the severity of the consequences. It's just that even when the consequences are particularly severe, most of companies are unable to deliver a quality product without external constraints.
I get that external constraints are particularly constraining due to the external effect that constrains the quality assurance aspect of any designed piece. 10-4.

Software can be fixed and replaced by a download and install, physical products cannot. This is the critical difference that makes the analogy break down.
 
While I will admit the release of Odyssey was, it's fair to say, botched. The fact that David Braben made a public apology within twenty four hours of the launch, and the fact there have been multiple patches and updates since show a determination to make things right on Frontier's part.

I have to say though I was rolling my eyes throughout the first few days. The reaction, and especially the reviews posted by people on Steam really do demonstrate how unbelievably stupid people can be. I mean, I sometimes wonder how people this thick are able to stand upright and feed themselves :rolleyes:

As an example, the "immediate reaction" of these people was "Odyssey is broken, it's unplayable, and this is clearly what the game is, what it was intended to be, and what it always will be". All this no more than 48 hours after the launch when patches and updates were already incoming, and Frontier had acknowledged the problems.

But no, this is just what Odyssey was and clearly it was never going to be fixed, and so the thick gobby brigade posted their reviews and messages. It's quite pathetic really. Has it died down yet, as I very quickly switched off so I could read something intelligent instead :cautious:
So you actually consider Odyssey playable?

I dont. The game has too many basic design flaws /limitations that prevent it from being enjoyable in any way for me now.

IK hope they can change that but after all these years, I just don't see it happening. It would take a new studio and new management first.
 
I get that external constraints are particularly constraining due to the external effect that constrains the quality assurance aspect of any designed piece. 10-4.

Software can be fixed and replaced by a download and install, physical products cannot. This is the critical difference that makes the analogy break down.
Boeing 737 Max issue was software and the MCAS has been patched 🤷‍♂️
 
Boeing 737 Max issue was software and the MCAS has been patched 🤷‍♂️
"Boeing admitted that the MCAS played a role in both accidents, where it acted on false indications from exterior sensors. Boeing said that MCAS's functions were distinctly not an anti-stall system. The reports emerged that Boeing knowingly withheld, for at least a year before the Lion Air crash, that a key sensor warning system did not function as advertised.[7] Repairs to the aircraft included an overhauled computer architecture, accurate simulation of forces potentially resisting manual trim, and other electromechanical defects."

Not just software, and not just an installable patch. But whatever, I realize the game is that one must win internet argument at all costs...
 
"Boeing admitted that the MCAS played a role in both accidents, where it acted on false indications from exterior sensors. Boeing said that MCAS's functions were distinctly not an anti-stall system. The reports emerged that Boeing knowingly withheld, for at least a year before the Lion Air crash, that a key sensor warning system did not function as advertised.[7] Repairs to the aircraft included an overhauled computer architecture, accurate simulation of forces potentially resisting manual trim, and other electromechanical defects."
They finally update the hardware too ? I didn't follow up to the end.
And the 7th note is interesting "Andy Pasztor; Andrew Tangel; Alison Sider (May 6, 2019). "Boeing Knew of Problem for a Year". Wall Street Journal. p. A1."

Not just software, and not just an installable patch. But whatever, I realize the game is that one must win internet argument at all costs...
Odyssey is not doing the job very well 🤷‍♂️
 
They finally update the hardware too ? I didn't follow up to the end.
And the 7th note is interesting "Andy Pasztor; Andrew Tangel; Alison Sider (May 6, 2019). "Boeing Knew of Problem for a Year". Wall Street Journal. p. A1."
Crazy big business move: cheaper to pay out insurance claims than to fix it. Though this time it didn't work out for them, which hopefully give pause for thought for others in that position. I'll try not to be too cynical....

Odyssey is not doing the job very well 🤷‍♂️
True, won't deny that. Not the end of the world though and as I keep saying, it will be patched - my issue is that the internet rage mob needs to quit the frenzy.
 
Threads like these are monuments to misplaced aggression.

It's like yelling at people to shut up and stop screaming just because they're burning to death as their airliner plummets toward the ground, and just as constructive.

A modicum of respect for the opinions of others should not be too much to expect in exchange for the same.
 
I think a part of the reason for the dissent between the two camps is that there are folks like myself who are experiencing some game play bugs (like the random mission transaction server errors ) but are having no issues graphically or FPS wise and are thoroughly enjoying the new content . We come on these forums and see a lot of people saying EDO is completely broken and we say - no it is'nt ... and never the twain shall meet .

Until Frontier can sort out the issues that are causing graphical glitches/ poor perceived performance for a section of the players - I guess this level of disagreement between the camps will just continue .
 
If there weren't problems we wouldn't see the huuuuuge number of complaints and the 32% positive steam reviews and an apology from the CEO etc. etc. you are in the minority of people that are quite content which must be nice for you and enjoy it to it's fullest, there's certainly a lot in Odyssey I want to enjoy and be excited about but tell that to someone that's been stuck in an Apex taxi for 9 days or the BGSers on a different platform that have actually given up 3 years of work or.. or.. the list goes on. I'm glad your happy though, If fdev knuckle down hopefully we all can be too!
 
I think a part of the reason for the dissent between the two camps is that there are folks like myself who are experiencing some game play bugs (like the random mission transaction server errors ) but are having no issues graphically or FPS wise and are thoroughly enjoying the new content . We come on these forums and see a lot of people saying EDO is completely broken and we say - no it is'nt ... and never the twain shall meet .

Until Frontier can sort out the issues that are causing graphical glitches/ poor perceived performance for a section of the players - I guess this level of disagreement between the camps will just continue .
Agreed.

I've played enough to feel like Odyssey will be a nice addition to my ED gameplay once the frame rates improve a little more for me.
 
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