There I totally agree.
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If you consider grind as gameplay, 20 hours to collect all the costume and weapon upgrades is far from being underestimated.
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I think it's important to note that fixing the biggest issue Odyssey has will also greatly improve VR.
They need to fix their broken rendering engine. Full stop, that's what they need to do right now. That's what they should concentrate 95% of their effort on. No way this thing runs on consoles without doing that. It's literally impossible to fix their lighting and surface modeling issues without doing that (they're destroying the layer responsible for it in frame processing). That, plus getting culling under control? That's the main problem right now.
Since they are (likely most?) of the performance issues right now, if they are fixed then VR should sing again. At least, it should in ships. I didn't personally hate their VR on Foot solution. The framerate just made it annoying.
Its quite normal for consumers to look at reviews prior to purchasing products. If you like throwing money around randomly at products that's fine.
Personally I pre-purchased EDO based on satisfaction of their existing game. The first time I have ever pre-purchased a game. Justification: low cost product, semi-trust Frontier to deliver a fun game, what the heck. I gave Odyssey an honest 4-hour effort 3 days after its release having read no spoilers or guides. Lots of time for the initial release issues to be resolved. I was excited for a fun experience with a full day set-aside. After 4 hours unable to return my ship to civilization (Blue Cobra disconnects) I turned it off.
I will try EDO again in a couple weeks if/when I see overall favorable reviews.
There is a pipeline dedicated to render the menu and HUD. But to fix the mess of output format between pipelines, it seem that FDev execute the gamma correction on this pipeline only instead of the output of the composer (the engine that assemble all the pipelines output to compose the final picture).
From what I have seen the shaders in game are "mixed" between the new lightning system they introduced bc legs and the existing shaders. And they seemed to have disabled gamma on this second pipe bc it really would make the difference between new and old coexisting much more visible.
Edit: No expert, just fiddling around with the pipelines a bit
I tend to make no exclusions.
No money from me till i heave ready to use product.
New activities are hard to use in the game but at least I can play as before.
I have postponed diving into new features, let's say, till middle of July. I expect the game will be in a good shape by the time.
All the negativity is asinine and overwrought nonsense (although there are some issues).
Just yesterday the game had 15,000+ concurrent playing on Steam (not counting other platforms). Yes some of that is Horizons but those higher than normal numbers indicate lots of Odyssey players.
There are just a large number of endless whiners who like to hear themselves whine.
Just yesterday the game had 15,000+ concurrent playing on Steam (not counting other platforms). Yes some of that is Horizons but those higher than normal numbers indicate lots of Odyssey players.
There are just a large number of endless whiners who like to hear themselves whine.
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Worth noting that the servers lost the plot from about 10pm last night (presumably when numbers peaked - I can't check at work) to the tune of F-Dev's continued radio silence, so I'd challenge the sweeping assertion that the current negativity is asinine or overwrought. People have legitimate frustrations right now and it doesn't help to belittle or dismiss that just because your experience differs to theirs.
These steam numbers? Why are you quoting Steam numbers? 15,000 is a return to the more typical numbers of last year. Who cares?
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Sure, please note I am not advicing not to assess EDO now, by all means. I am just pointing out that the issues are already known and in the public domain, in particular the performance issues are quite factual and not open to interpretation. There is no need to even buy the product to find out.
Pondering if you should spend the money on this or not to "see it for yourself" does not make much sense. We all know the answer: All performance related issues, among others, are clear and in the public domain. Why would you then buy a product you already know does not work as intended?: If you feel you want to leave a bad review in Steam or "send a message" to FDEV you can just go right ahead and do it, and then ask for a refund. No questions asked. No money spent. No hard feelings. "Win-win". But there is no "shall I spend money" dilemma here, there is really no need to rationalize the intent to issue a poor review. Steam basically allows you to do it for free.
The issue with poor performance though is precisely that it does not even allow you to actuallly assess properly other elements of the game, hence the option to delay the purchase (and the review) until you can do so.
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With the caveat that FD is releasing updates, and most reviews and public domain knowledge is a week + old. So there is a reasonable possibility that if installed today Odyssey could provide a much better experience than 2 weeks ago. It is a gamble. With an open mind a customer might be pleasantly surprised. Can't trust reviews anymore because they are all mixed up.
I was already disappointed, but didn't return the game. In a week or two I'll upload the updates and try again. I was frustrated and unhappy but I really, really, want this game to work. Horizons in the meantime.
This particular quiet voice can summarize my feelings on Odyssey as this: “Much better than I’d expected, but not as good as I’d hoped. Mostly, though, my journey from Colonia to the Bubble has slowed to a crawl, because there’s suddenly a lot more interesting worlds worth exploring.”
The longer version is this:
The computer I originally tested the Odyssey Alpha on was barely below the recommended specs, and I had to use low graphics at 720p to get frame rates in stations and settlements above 30 FPS in 2D, which is a level I consider playable for most games. Not the prettiest, but I prefer good gameplay over pretty graphics any day of the week.
When I got to play, briefly, the day after release, I was able to bump up graphics to my native 1440p resolution, at medium graphics, and still get over 30 FPS in settlements. I honestly hadn't expected that level of improvement. I had thankfully completed my first leg of my return at one of the waypoints, so I immediately disembarked from Krait Caesar's Ghost, stopped for a pretend drink at the Pilots Federation Lounge, and then visited Pioneer Cycle, eager to get my hands on an Artemis Suit.
All they had was a Dominator suit.
It was a G2, so I bought it, along with the G2 plasma and kinetic rifles that were available. I then amused myself for an hour, trying to do an less than legal retrieval mission from a base with a kit more suited for massacres than stealth. By the end of that hour, I successfully talked myself out of murdering one particular NPC who never broke line of sight of a doorway I needed to enter to get access to my target. I ended up just taking the trespassing fine, and then using my Maverick's shields to tank his sidearm's fire long enough to open the locker and get the item, and then made a break for it, leaving behind four angry guards firing wildly in my general direction. The next two play sessions were spent exploring the surface of planets as I moved towards the next station along my route. Things were going well, and then last Thursday the graphics card I'd ordered for my new PC finally arrived. I've spent most of my limited free time at home getting everything installed, transferred over, and otherwise ready to go. Once everything was done, I immediately booted up VR, and spent a session playing in VR.
In space it was great in VR... except for the DSS VR bug.
On the surface in an SRV, everything was great. On foot, in VR... "Theater Mode" was better than I'd expected. I still want proper roomscale VR, and I need to see how it performs in settlements and stations, but Odyssey can handle VR there, I may not take off my headset like I'd planned. edited because my ipad always replaces Alpha with Aloha for some reason.
edited a second time because I got the Dominator Suit confused for the Maverick. I would've preferred the Maverick if I couldn't get the Artemis.
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But you would be supporting the restaurant for doing poorly. They won't get better that way.But when your friends say, "We know this is a bad restaurant, but we want to take you there, so dinner is on us," that complicates things a bit. Remember, I was gifted the funds for Odyssey, so the buyer's remorse isn't about me losing money (I lose nothing) but rather the idea that Frontier is getting money, undeservedly. Maybe "buyer's" remorse is the wrong term to use...
How many restaurant critics write reviews on restaurants they have never ate at? Today - everyone's a critic after just having a cup of tea.
If you decide en-masse not to visit the restaurant until things improve - hey, presto - no restaurant in a week's time.
If you go and order what you enjoy them cooking from the menu, even if it's just the dessert, you build a relationship with the restaurant and you can encourage them to do better.
But that's none of my business. I'm out there enjoying what Odyssey has to give. Bye!
Someone got his weekly allowance ?
You must have been a good boy.
He's holding out until the patch today to decide, so all bets are open
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