So how does why does your experience of the game, top everyone elses?I have played it, but I'm one of the lucky ones who's had no real issues. I'm just disheartened by the fact that people have to post their immediate reaction as reviews of the game, less than two or three days after release. Yes, it was botched, but does that justify posting a very permanent and very negative review online? How many of these dumbasses are going to update their reviews when Odyssey does improve? Probably only a single figure percentage I'd guess. How does that help the game and the player community?
Has the hysteria died down yet?
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They are quiet means that they are working hard... If only that were true.
Right in time, released 2 days ago (or yesterday, depending of your local time)TES Online 19,99
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Thats your definition of so much ? I mean, i'm sure that among all the possibilities that our universe offers, there must be 2-3 aliens to do the same (that the purpose of "There is so much games"). You might as well have quoted Star Citizen which has a much worse business model. What i mean is that it's not engaging to pay more for a slice of cheese than a burger. And even then, the slice of cheese is almost generous compared to the gameplay that Odyssey brings to Horizon (Horizon is the burger in the analogy, but i think you got it).
Thanks, I appreciate it. It doesn't really shed a light on what the alternative is... I am interested because people are throwing "mislead" and "being lied to" all over.
Standalone would actually mean the DLC does not need the original title to work, just FYI. But yes, I can agree that it's not a season, based on the information I've seen so far.
Wiki's are not official source of information, but community updated projects. Also, no source on the claim on the snippet there. I'm not saying it's not true, just that it might not be 100% fact.It's mentioned in the wiki page.
Elite Dangerous: Odyssey
Disembark, Commander, and leave your mark on the galaxy in Elite Dangerous: Odyssey. Explore distant worlds on foot and expand the frontier of known space. Be the first to step out onto countless unique planets as you discover land untouched since time began. Elite Dangerous: Odyssey invites you...elite-dangerous.fandom.com
No, I don't get it. Odyssey is basically an entire new game that gets added to Elite Dangerous. If you don't like it, that's fine. If you think it isn't worth the price, that's fine as well. Nobody is forced to buy it. If you want to know why Elite Dangerous doesn't cost as much as Odyssey, that's probably because Elite Dangerous was released 7 years ago and Odyssey was released this year. I have no idea what you are trying to say.Right in time, released 2 days ago (or yesterday, depending of your local time)
Thats your definition of so much ? I mean, i'm sure that among all the possibilities that our universe offers, there must be 2-3 aliens to do the same (that the purpose of "There is so much games"). You might as well have quoted Star Citizen which has a much worse business model. What i mean is that it's not engaging to pay more for a slice of cheese than a burger. And even then, the slice of cheese is almost generous compared to the gameplay that Odyssey brings to Horizon (Horizon is the burger in the analogy, but i think you got it).
Yep, and selling the old base game cheap increases the likelihood of people also buying EDO.
looks at number of repliesWhile I will admit the release of Odyssey was, it's fair to say, botched. The fact that David Braben made a public apology within twenty four hours of the launch, and the fact there have been multiple patches and updates since show a determination to make things right on Frontier's part.
I have to say though I was rolling my eyes throughout the first few days. The reaction, and especially the reviews posted by people on Steam really do demonstrate how unbelievably stupid people can be. I mean, I sometimes wonder how people this thick are able to stand upright and feed themselves
As an example, the "immediate reaction" of these people was "Odyssey is broken, it's unplayable, and this is clearly what the game is, what it was intended to be, and what it always will be". All this no more than 48 hours after the launch when patches and updates were already incoming, and Frontier had acknowledged the problems.
But no, this is just what Odyssey was and clearly it was never going to be fixed, and so the thick gobby brigade posted their reviews and messages. It's quite pathetic really. Has it died down yet, as I very quickly switched off so I could read something intelligent instead
I think it might still be on.
Personally I would include the base game in Odyssey. ED was on sale so many times (and even for free at one point), everyone who is interested in space games probably already owns it. And the very few people who don't get lucky. I guess FDEV is making more profit with cosmetics anyway.
But I just don't get why anyone would complain about the current pricing model. I paid 150€ for ED, Horizons and Odyssey (+future content), so I don't have much sympathy for someone who doesn't want to pay 70€ and can't wait for a sale.
No, Odyssey is not a entire new game. It just adds a flavor to Horizon, nothing more. As it stands, there isn't enough gameplay content (compared to Horizon) to feed for more than a few weeks. Many years of gameplay content for Horizon, a few week more for Odyssey. The price just doesn't reflect this.
This is your personal opinion and it's great that you have one.
I agree with him regarding the price. Horizons does deliver more than Odyssey, so like most games I own, I believe the DLC should cost less than the base game. Even if Frontier were to swap prices with EDH and EDO, that would feel more "right" to me.This is your personal opinion and it's great that you have one.
Now if EDO were a "built from the ground up" separate game that leveraged new graphic technologies, then I think it would be worth the price tag (assuming it worked as advertised).
A personal opinion, of course
Yeah, if it was, to pick a contemporaneous example, the PSO New Genesis to Horizons' PSO2.I agree with him regarding the price. Horizons does deliver more than Odyssey, so like most games I own, I believe the DLC should cost less than the base game. Even if Frontier were to swap prices with EDH and EDO, that would feel more "right" to me.
Now if EDO were a "built from the ground up" separate game that leveraged new graphic technologies, then I think it would be worth the price tag (assuming it worked as advertised).
A personal opinion, of course
"Steam Early Access enables you to sell your game on Steam while it is still being developed, and provide context to customers that a product should be considered "unfinished"."
The describes exactly what Odyssey is. Odyssey is still being developed, and is "unfinished". Therefore it is misleading to sell this game on steam without the Early Access title. Without this title (or any similar marketing term), how would new customers know that the game is unfinished. Without having the label of Early Access (or equivalent) when marketing the game, it is assumed that it is complete, as it isn't really common to see games market themselves as complete/finished. Its either Early Access, or not (meaning its in a mostly completed, at least launch ready, state). This has lead to new customers reviewing Odyssey as though it is a mostly completed, final product (when its not) causing critically low scores.
If you talk about ED + Horizons, yes, it definitely offers more content. If you compare Horizons (just the paid part, not the free stuff) with Odyssey I'd say Odyssey has a similar scope.I agree with him regarding the price. Horizons does deliver more than Odyssey, so like most games I own, I believe the DLC should cost less than the base game. Even if Frontier were to swap prices with EDH and EDO, that would feel more "right" to me.
Now if EDO were a "built from the ground up" separate game that leveraged new graphic technologies, then I think it would be worth the price tag (assuming it worked as advertised).
A personal opinion, of course
Apart from the bugs, performance and some other problems it's clear they've put considerable effort into it. As I said earlier, I understand everyone who doesn't want to pay full price, but they can just wait for the first sale.
Anyway, did you play it yet?
Once again we come back to "You only get one chance to make a first impression"
Frontier botched it horrendously. This was a massive chance to bring in an influx of new players, and when those new players first stepped into the ED galaxy, their first impression was of a right mess. Can't blame any of them for not giving the game a second chance after this. They don't have the fond associations the rest of us have built up with the game.
Frontier botched it horrendously. This was a massive chance to bring in an influx of new players, and when those new players first stepped into the ED galaxy, their first impression was of a right mess. Can't blame any of them for not giving the game a second chance after this. They don't have the fond associations the rest of us have built up with the game.
Hey, let's call it an achievement.
They actually botched it 6 times now only with Odyssey:
- Release
- Hotfix 1
- Hotfix 2
- Update 1
- Hotfix Update 1.1
- Update 2
Dismissing other people pointing out issues with the game by simply smearing them as being 'hysterical' or 'not intelligent'? Hmmm...
While no doubt many people were knee-jerking, I suspect the majority complaining did at least have some considered reason(s) to do so?
So with your comments, IMHO you're risking displaying the very 'hysteria' you're seemingly declaring others are guilty of?
Just take on board the comments/views you understand or agree with, and ignore the rest? Because blanket insulting people doesn't seem a good move IMHO.
While no doubt many people were knee-jerking, I suspect the majority complaining did at least have some considered reason(s) to do so?
So with your comments, IMHO you're risking displaying the very 'hysteria' you're seemingly declaring others are guilty of?
Just take on board the comments/views you understand or agree with, and ignore the rest? Because blanket insulting people doesn't seem a good move IMHO.
Fool me once, shame on... uh, fool me.... you can't get fooled again!