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Got a few more "rubbish ideas" I just made up on the fly.
Taking not just plant but also rock/ground and atmospheric samples, which would feed into the codex and maybe provide mats. Those could be collected on foot, either an (optional) mobile sample processing tool and/or the ship could get a new internal module that would allow further analysis (which could increase yields/credits).
But no, all we got is 'hold trigger 3 times in a row with lots of running around in-between' instead. The playerbase seems to love it though so I'm gonna stop now.
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I have been playing odyssey from day 1 it has not changed my playstyle at all (except for performance) it has although given me more things to do if I wish I find that I really like going mountain climbing when I feel like it
Can you please stop making reasonable suggestions. This is irritating.
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Let me try again... I think Frontier should extent the sample requirements from 3 to 5, reduce the scanner radius by 50% and make the biodiversity requirement in terms of distance a minimum of 1,500m.Can you please stop making reasonable suggestions. This is irritating.
Better?
as I walk on the planet there are times I just want to reach out and grab the little stone on the ground and put it in my pocket
Careful, don't give them ideas. You know, the mods are reading....Let me try again... I think Frontier should extent the sample requirements from 3 to 5, reduce the scanner radius by 50% and make the biodiversity requirement in terms of distance a minimum of 1,500m.
Better?
But Lord Brebus approves
I've been saying for a long time they should look at what Kerbal Space Program does. Similar to your ideas - they have surface samples, instruments to measure the atmosphere (barometer, etc), thermometer for temperature readings, gravimeter (or whatever it's called) and some other instruments. Put them all together (combined with the biomes/zones) and you have great exploration gameplay. Not sure if it makes sense to have the procgen create a few zones on each planet or not - but I do really like the ideas of more instruments and sampling......(and we don't need minigames - just collect the experimental data/material in the right locations).
Exploration has (IMO) by far the most potential of anything in ED - but it's also (again IMO) easily the most underdeveloped type of game play.
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Yep - given the game already tracks a lot of stats about stellar bodies I'm sure some of that could be further refined or even taken out of the sys map and incrementally put back in via more meaningful exploration/sampling gameplay.
And I say this as a relatively non-science-nerd (as in - I like science but I don't pay all that much attention to the stellar data in the game, beyond the basics) and certainly not a natural explorer type in the context of Elite, but these are the kind of things that would get me more involved/interested in this sub-activity within the game, besides mere sightseeing and screenshotting.
You mean you don't like that after 7 years the only gameplay reason explorers have for landing on planets now is to look at a draft of 30 different static plants that don't do anything, don't react to anything, and are more boring than most of the plants we have on Earth?
This is what ED has come to. We get the "biggest update ever" and threads dedicated to talking about it turn into pages of X4 talk.
I would play X4 but I just want a detailed combat spacesim, which I do not get the vibes of at all from what I've seen of X4. I'm stuck with EDH until FD relieves themselves on it with EDO. God, please deliver an alternative soon.
So you prefer blurry illusions over crispy ugliness?
...couldn't resist.
The alternative would have been 4 pages NMSThis is what ED has come to. We get the "biggest update ever" and threads dedicated to talking about it turn into pages of X4 talk.
I would play X4 but I just want a detailed combat spacesim, which I do not get the vibes of at all from what I've seen of X4. I'm stuck with EDH until FD relieves themselves on it with EDO. God, please deliver an alternative soon.
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...couldn't resist.
TBH - what’s the point in anything
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NMS is sort of detailed though in its own ways...
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As for the "combat", "space" and "sim" bits however...yeah.
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The only thing keeping me from finally trying SC after Odyssey is how hopelessly simplistic the space combat looks.
X4 is a different kind of thing, camouflaged as the same kind of thing. You think you're playing a space ship game, and then damned if you're not several hours in playing a menu based strategy game / corporation builder.
NMS is <3. But it doesn't scratch the flying itch at all.
X4 is a different kind of thing, camouflaged as the same kind of thing.
You think you're playing a space ship game, and then damned if you're not several hours in playing a menu based strategy game / corporation builder. NMS is <3. But it doesn't scratch the flying itch at all.
This is what ED has come to. We get the "biggest update ever" and threads dedicated to talking about it turn into pages of X4 talk.
I would play X4 but I just want a detailed combat spacesim, which I do not get the vibes of at all from what I've seen of X4. I'm stuck with EDH until FD relieves themselves on it with EDO. God, please deliver an alternative soon.
On that note, here are some more X4 screenshots I grabbed. This picture is from the flight deck of my destroyer, which has docks for four small ships. Unlike ED, I can actually display my ships on my "personal fleet carrier" and walk around them, board them, etc. Notice that when the lighting is right, this game can look surprisingly realistic (more akin to Elite).
Here's a view of the flight deck from the bridge. Yes, this "fleet carrier" has a bridge where I can walk around or take control and fly myself. I'm pressed up against the window as far as I can go, so the actual bridge is behind me, but I wanted to show the view of my small collection of little ships - a scout, a heavy fighter, and a "racer".
Here's an external view of my destroyer, showing my little fleet docked below. I can place all these ships in the hanger just like in ED, which is a good idea should I come under attack (except for the heavy fighter which I'll be jumping into).
This beauty was just floating adrift in a backwater system. It needed some fixing up, but it's now the fastest ship in my fleet. I can't normally buy this ship, because it belongs to a faction I'm not aligned with. Seeing that I need to "win a race" to unlock research to improve my engines, the timing of finding this racer is perfect!
I know that I'm supposed to play this as a menu / map driven game like Stellaris, but I keep returning to playing it like it's ED, flying my own ships, fighting my own fights (who told you X4 wasn't a detailed combat space sim?), exploring, etc. Sure, I've got mining ships that work for me while I'm out having fun, and I'm producing silicon wafers as fast as my humble little station can pump them out, but most my time is spent flying, not map-sitting. Of course, I'm still early game and in my honeymoon phase, so perhaps this will change with time.
Awesome - you are going to single handedly convince me to finally finish up X3 and move to X4!
To be fair - there's no "right way" to play the X series. I usually end up building a big fleet with factories and space stations because that's what I like to do.... but I know other players that mostly stick to either being a trader or combat pilot and never acquire that many ships
I'm a console peasant these days, but I loved X2: The Threat and - despite criticism - liked X3 (what little I played, my computer couldn't really handle it).
I would love to play X4. I enjoyed X2 exactly the same way you play X4: I spent some time empire managing, but the vast majority was in the cockpit of a corvette piddling around and shooting pirates. Made my fortune stealing ships, actually, before I ever got a good set of stations going along. Can only imagine how much greater the flight and customization in X4 is.
I'm told SC is actually quite a lot of fun, too, pending you have the hardware to run it (my understanding is it weirdly is harder on your drive than graphics card).