No we don't actually. Watching a stream of a game is like watching football for some people.No, but I think you know what I meant
Big Elite Streamers Giving Up On Streaming Elite?
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You are missing a huge point. People want to play certain aspects of this game. The hooners want to hoon. The explorers want to explore. The AX want to fight thargoids.
They don't want to spend hundreds of hours doing a mindless material grind.
The material grind 1) is not connected to the type of gameplay its used for, and 2) is a requirement of the game to enjoy the other parts of it.
People are not "not playing the game" by doing the relog trick to get materials.
They are trying expededite the worst part of this game to do the gameplay they actually enjoy.
You are defending terrible, unfun game design, that if changed would benefit everyone.
Actually, from the categories mentions, only one needs excessive grinding because the gameplay employed by them is grinding. Yes, that mean AXI
Katie was boasting that she's no1 on AXI
Which requires excessive amounts of materials for resynth.
The game was not designed to play exclusively a single activity, hence when doing only PVP people need to grind for it, same goes for AXI
Unlocking Engineers would be the first hint - they get you basically through most aspects of the game. And getting materials involves playing various parts of the game too.
Or grind them.
Personal choice, but one should not be complain about grinding when all they do in the game is grinding one small part of it.
People that enjoy the game in its entirety (or at least most of its aspects) do not need to grind anything.
If you do a bit of everything, you get all you need in terms of materials.
Or grind them when needed.
Choices, Choices.
you are so right!
ED should be a Sandbox not a Grind - as my man Kai Zen said recently
FDev need to have more confidence that the FUN parts of their game would keep us playing - not feel the need to artificially extend playtime though boring and pointless grind activities
FDev: give AX CMDRs access to the BIG thargoid fights without fighitng your god damn RNG all the time and access to synth without mats and you will have a playerbase that would NEVER leave your game - and i'm sure this applies to other playstyles too - give the racers the ability to mark track waypoints etc or PVP pilots a means to engage in PVP without the grind
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FDev need to reevaluate what the game is - because it cannot compete with SC - they need to open up the fun because what they 'want' ED to be just will never be good enough
As someone who worked for a long time in the industrial gases industry, I just lost a sizeable part of my braincells
I * guess * you two are just joking, but still...
You mustn't inhale all the gases, man! Not all make you go produce funny noises, you know?As someone who worked for a long time in the industrial gases industry, I just lost a sizeable part of my braincells
I * guess * you two are just joking, but still...
(Btw. mine was a pun, or wordplay. O2 and O, too - getit? Huehue...)
you are so right!
ED should be a Sandbox not a Grind - as my man Kai Zen said recently
FDev need to have more confidence that the FUN parts of their game would keep us playing - not feel the need to artificially extend playtime though boring and pointless grind activities
FDev - give AX CMDRs access to the BIG thargoid fights without fighitng your god damn RNG all the time and access to synth witohut mats and you will have a playerbase that would NEVER leave your game - and im sure this applies to other playstyles too - give the racers the ability to mark track waypoints etc or PVP pilots a means to engage in PVP without the grind
You play a very specific part of the game and only that part. And it's a really high performance part.
then complain about grinding.
The game, when played as a whole, is not as grindy as people imply.
The F1 cars gets rebuilt after every race. People are working hundreds of hours for a 2h race.
Same goes for athletes - they train hundreds of hours to be able to participate in high level competitions.
They have to grind a lot for their high performance runs
You know...
just saying.PS. It does not need to compete with SC.
Unfortunately, there is not a single game out there that can compete with ED, else i would be playing it.
Since you are a professional, the cat's farting behind me. Super loudly. Any advice on how to handle that ?As someone who worked for a long time in the industrial gases industry, I just lost a sizeable part of my braincells
I * guess * you two are just joking, but still...
You play a very specific part of the game and only that part. And it's a really high performance part.
then complain about grinding.
The game, when played as a whole, is not as grindy as people imply.
The F1 cars gets rebuilt after every race. People are working hundreds of hours for a 2h race.
Same goes for athletes - they train hundreds of hours to be able to participate in high level competitions.
They have to grind a lot for their high performance runs
You know...
PS. It does not need to compete with SC.
Unfortunately, there is not a single game out there that can compete with ED, else i would be playing it.
haha well you can believe whatever you wanna believe of course - but in 6 motnhs time when noone is playing ED i'll gladly give you an intro course into SC
The grind is dumb and not fun. My friend was enjoying this game, then he saw what he would have to do just to upgrade and he was out.You play a very specific part of the game and only that part. And it's a really high performance part.
then complain about grinding.
The game, when played as a whole, is not as grindy as people imply.
The F1 cars gets rebuilt after every race. People are working hundreds of hours for a 2h race.
Same goes for athletes - they train hundreds of hours to be able to participate in high level competitions.
They have to grind a lot for their high performance runs
You know...
PS. It does not need to compete with SC.
Unfortunately, there is not a single game out there that can compete with ED, else i would be playing it.
Why do you insist on keeping a grind in the game that is boring and unattached to the fun gameplay loops?
What does this mind numbing grind give you that if gone you would be missing out on?
haha well you can believe whatever you wanna believe of course - but in 6 motnhs time when noone is playing ED i'll gladly give you an intro course into SC
if that happens i will subscribe to your channel and take whatever courses you will deem necessary
Whilst I enjoy the comparison, as Katie practically is an Olympic bug-killer, the hours put in should be about developing the skill, not managing the grind. Having said that, this is a video game, not a real world event, and so it is freed from the restrictions of always making sense if the alternative is more fun. I think that gating AX so that newwinder pilots don't think it's for them is fine, because stumbling in would be miserable for most, but there's a lot of decisions in the design and pacing of ED that are pretty anti-fun. Things got a lot better after the economic rebalance though.You play a very specific part of the game and only that part. And it's a really high performance part.
then complain about grinding.
The game, when played as a whole, is not as grindy as people imply.
The F1 cars gets rebuilt after every race. People are working hundreds of hours for a 2h race.
Same goes for athletes - they train hundreds of hours to be able to participate in high level competitions.
They have to grind a lot for their high performance runs
You know...
PS. It does not need to compete with SC.
Unfortunately, there is not a single game out there that can compete with ED, else i would be playing it.
MMO
Career game
Character Progression
Obviously, ED is a niche game even in the above context, definitely not for everyone.
And if you keep mentioning the grind it only means one thing - you never played any of the old school mmos and you know nothing about the grind.
If i want a quick run, no strings attached, i start Fun Run 3 on my mobile phone. Chop some heads, roll over others and the likes. A race takes less than 2 minutes and it can be hilariously fun.
True, SC has ship interiors... and a whole system to play in!
Really?
haha you gotta just play it dude - ED is a generation behind by comparison
honestly you can disagree i dont care , im having fun playing SC what else matters
Well, AXI - as a whole - can militate for removing the resynths -at least for AX weapons and tone down a bit the high level thargs to compensate for that.
But i dont think they really want that.
haha oh dude, the 'i suffered though terrible game design so you should too' argument is so tired
and ultimately Fdev are losing this battle - like you can stay stubborn on this, awesome, but plugging the leaks on this boat will take new tihnking, and as we know the 'average ED player' is like 60 right? Forum dads
You have fun, Katie... That is the reason we play games (allegedly)haha you gotta just play it dude - ED is a generation behind by comparison
honestly you can disagree i dont care , im having fun playing SC what else matters
I find it funny that you suggest that in 6 months no-one (it is hyphenated, by the way) will be playing ED. (no-one being an inclusive, as you are aware, I'm sure
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