Anarchy Factions / Systems - Influence Loss Reports

  • Diamond frogs Faction
  • LTT 7786
  • Completed 8 missions and sold legal goods, decrease in influence occurred
  • Evening of 13/6 (+10 GMT)

    Note the mission influence bug is still in effect, rewards for inf missions are often zero or less than what is offered.

I have experienced these too in my PMF systems since Odyssey dropped - depressing. Do we know if FDev is working to fix this or too busy fixing other Odyssey bugs?
 
Ahoy, space pirates!

We've received reports of the recent Odyssey update negatively affecting influence for anarchy factions and systems in the BGS. If your minor faction/system of choice has been affect, could you please reply to this thread with the following details:

  • The name of the faction
  • The name of the system
  • What you were trying to do vs what actually happened
  • Approximate dates you attempted the action

Make sure your reports concern incidents that occurred since 28 May. Please do not post replies to other comments, or post anything off-topic lest your comment be removed. We would like to keep this thread clean and efficient for feedback.

Your feedback will be immensely helpful in identifying and resolving this issue.

Yarr and O7

Edit: we ask for dates so that we can isolate and examine specific events. We understand that some issues are "always on" but please give specific instances where possible
Ahoy, space pirates!

We've received reports of the recent Odyssey update negatively affecting influence for anarchy factions and systems in the BGS. If your minor faction/system of choice has been affect, could you please reply to this thread with the following details:

  • The name of the faction
  • The name of the system
  • What you were trying to do vs what actually happened
  • Approximate dates you attempted the action

Make sure your reports concern incidents that occurred since 28 May. Please do not post replies to other comments, or post anything off-topic lest your comment be removed. We would like to keep this thread clean and efficient for feedback.

Your feedback will be immensely helpful in identifying and resolving this issue.

Yarr and O7

Edit: we ask for dates so that we can isolate and examine specific events. We understand that some issues are "always on" but please give specific instances where possible.
The Chimera’s Crew

Quilmen, 10 delta Coronae Borealis

in Quilmen we had just exited expansion and gone down to 60% influence which we knew would happen but a couple days later we went from 58% influence to 45% in a single day, there’s also been consistent drops in security and influence in both Quilmen and 10 delta but no idea if this just players or not.

16th June for the drop in Quilmen and around around 3rd June and before for 10 delta
 
From the patch notes:
AI that are criminals in the local system will now always be assigned to the 'Pirate' faction, to stop criminal factions being adversely affected within the BGS.
This was today:
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Irregular Markers PoI in Chnouk

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Surface PoI in Xihe

Looks like they're only assigned to the pirate faction when you get a scavenger event in settlements (this was also the case before update 4 though) but not to surface PoIs.
 

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So, I don't mean to be a hard-ass about this or anything, but is that it, FD?

Clap the dust off our hands, and problem solved?
 
We retreated from 5th system this morning with more to come - all those months spent building our empire have dwindled in one month in spite of spending hours every day fighting endless wars and completing missions for our PMF :cry:
 
If you're looking for a control - Rain Blue Cartel are in control of the Rain system which has no landable planets and thus no settlements, so they've been isolated from any influence effects from Odyssey. Their influence has been pretty steady for a good while - there's an occasional dip when a neighbouring system sends some massacre missions their way (it was pretty notable back in December when that update first dropped) but if anything they're thriving - if selling goods to bartenders helps the controlling faction's inf that might explain it as they're the only anarchy that controls a large orbital starport in a 50ly radius.

Taleo is a nearby system that was controlled by an anarchy faction and held a large orbital, but it does have surface settlements and appears to have changed hands since the odyssey update.
 

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We retreated from 5th system this morning with more to come - all those months spent building our empire have dwindled in one month in spite of spending hours every day fighting endless wars and completing missions for our PMF :cry:
Hmm... doesn't sound like BGS band-aids are going to cut it.

Whodathunk?
 

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Hmm... doesn't sound like BGS band-aids are going to cut it.

Whodathunk?
Even if they did sort the problem going forwards, they don't address the damage done that devastated years of work in the space of a week for some player groups. Just a hope and a prayer they stop things from getting worse.

Not sure if Frontier has any intent to address that in any way, or if what's happened with BGS balls ups are so set in stone that you can just sign away the effort. Suspect it's the latter, tbh.
 
Hmm... doesn't sound like BGS band-aids are going to cut it.

Whodathunk?
Do we know if FDev has tweaked BGS or noticed any changes?

I'm NOT exagerating with endless wars and at a lost keeping our PMF influences from falling. If nothing is being done to resolve this issue, I don't believe we should waste time fighting wars and completing missions for our PMFs.

Edit: Since Update 5 is not dropping today 24 Jun, anyone knows if there will be a update for fixes?
 
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Do we know if FDev has tweaked BGS or noticed any changes?

I'm exagerating with endless wars and at a lost keeping our PMF influences from falling. If nothing is being done to resolve this issue, I don't believe we should waste time fighting wars and completing missions for our PMFs.

Edit: Since Update 5 is not dropping today 24 Jun, anyone knows if there will be a update for fixes?
AFAIK only this in patch 4:
AI

  • AI that are criminals in the local system will now always be assigned to the 'Pirate' faction, to stop criminal factions being adversely affected within the BGS.

There may have been server-side changes, those are usually not documented (it would be nice if more were).
 
OK, our PMF has retreated from 6th system after Odyssey dropped with 2-3 other systems to exit soon.

Question is why does one settlement in system still belong to our PMF - becos t'was gained pre-Odyssey?
 
completing missions for our PMF


Not sure if you guys are aware of this. It seems to be getting very little attention, despite the fact that it really cripples all factions' ability to move INF. A few of our Horizons players have confirmed the journal is reporting the same behaviour in that client as well, just not backed up by the actual UI. You might have been throwing a lot of effort away.

In short, it seems like choosing INF rewards is actually zeroing INF for completed missions. Choose other rewards types till this gets fixed.
 
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  • The name of the faction: Screaming Eagles
  • The name of the system: Kurughnaye
  • What you were trying to do vs what actually happened: Tried to gain INF with classics like trading, selling explo data etc., as well as space and surface INF missions. Expected gain 10 - 15 %, actual gain: 1 - 3 %.
  • Approximate dates you attempted the action: Since Odyssey has been released INF dropped from approx. 45 % to around 20 - 25 %, with some very rare moves recently and some strange jumps, also amongst NPC factions. Especially over the last week, since release of Update 5. Additionally, with all other factions at war and/or running elections constantly, how to gain INF at all?
Obviously many commanders do missions against anarchy factions as they won't be send to a detention center, if they fail and get critically injured.
This is probably working as intented (LOL), but the INF these missions activate needs some rework, otherwise it renders any effort to work the bgs (and enjoy the beauty of the game) useless.
 
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Are all Odyssey settlements owned by minor faction who controls the system? Our PMF definitely didn't get over 160 settlements despite constantly at war since Odyssey dropped.

Is this why it's almost impossible to regain Influence levels pre-Odyssey because everyone's exploiting Anarchy settlements?
 
Are all Odyssey settlements owned by minor faction who controls the system? [...]
No, each faction in a system can own Odyssey settlements. That means you can also get bounties at a settlement in an Anarchy system if the owning faction itself isn't of Anarchy type.
 
Are all Odyssey settlements owned by minor faction who controls the system? Our PMF definitely didn't get over 160 settlements despite constantly at war since Odyssey dropped.

Is this why it's almost impossible to regain Influence levels pre-Odyssey because everyone's exploiting Anarchy settlements?
When Odyssey came out, the settlements were portioned out based on their influence in-system. If you were controller with a high amount of influence, you got given most of the settlements. For example, one of our systems has 80 settlements in it, we had ~65% influence when odyssey dropped and got given around 50 of them. We had strong control over most of our systems, most of them were over 60% and so we ended up with double the number of settlements as the next highest anarchy.

And yes, owning them creates a constant downward pressure on the control of your system which is why it's terrible to control them. We've been dumping them as fast as we can. fantastic game design.
 
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