Haven't ever been pirated, but well no comms fire asap and with group stuff I have experienced....
Modes Odyssey The Start of a New Mediocre Loop: The New Hotel California.
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Does that apply when said starter of a Hotel California thread announces to all that if they don't like their grandiose plans for their Hotel California, then they should pack their bags and move to another town?
(Stretching the metaphor there, I know...!)
Let's not also lose sight of the fact that the OP is named Massacre2011...
Coincidence - I think not!
Coincidence - I think not!
It's one of those things that hasn't ever made any sense to me. Forcing everyone to open wouldn't increase the quality of PvP, not even a little bit. What it might do is increase kill counts.
the solution is simple.
private player run servers and a full mod system.
Set the rules for your server based around a game that is setup from the ground up to be pvp centric and if it's great, players will play in it.
want to go a different direction, go ahead and do so. Everyone gets to play the game they want that fits within the fully moddable systems exposed. No more of this hardcore players forced to slum it with casuals or pvp'ers having to deal with pve balance and vice versa.
this is literally..and objectively...and absolutely the only solution that works without fully rewriting the game.
private player run servers and a full mod system.
Set the rules for your server based around a game that is setup from the ground up to be pvp centric and if it's great, players will play in it.
want to go a different direction, go ahead and do so. Everyone gets to play the game they want that fits within the fully moddable systems exposed. No more of this hardcore players forced to slum it with casuals or pvp'ers having to deal with pve balance and vice versa.
this is literally..and objectively...and absolutely the only solution that works without fully rewriting the game.
Ian Phillips
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Look around, admire the view, take a drink at the bar.The obvious solution is to move the thread to Hotel California, wherever it may be nowadays
While it might not re-write the game - you would lose any development, any story, any expansion... The Thargoids would remain exactly as they are, no Raxxla, no CGs, no stations spiraling out of orbit and likely no further development of the game or patching.
Maybe 10-15 years down the line once FDev is done with the game and release the server code... but honestly, right now, it's too much to lose just to make it like Space Engineers!
Get the quote right... Kirk said 'physician'. McCoy would later say that Kirk does 'what you always do, turn death into a fighting chance for life'.
As to while bringing this up again... 'resistance is futile'...
Isn't it a moderator's job to keep the thread on-topic and not change the title of the post...
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It's funny to see ppl strugling the PvE and PvP stuff again.
Remember this is a grind based game, ealier commanders always have gear superiority than late comers.
However the finicial survival of this game is actually Arx, which basically works only when new comers enjoy the game so they are willing to pay.
When this game filled with experienced PvP players, there will be a very limited numbers of player that making Arx contribution.
New players struggled to survive the grinding then their first conda drop like flies by the hand of PvP elites. It would be a good reason to stop playing or buy Arx for these new victims. When dev cannot recieve enough fund to maintain server operation, this game will be dead straight.
Remember the base retail price of this game is never sufficient to sustain server infrastructure or new feature expense long enough like a decade.
It is and always new players and rockie friendly env making ppl willing to pay extra, that is the key to game finicially success and long lasting.
Remember this is a grind based game, ealier commanders always have gear superiority than late comers.
However the finicial survival of this game is actually Arx, which basically works only when new comers enjoy the game so they are willing to pay.
When this game filled with experienced PvP players, there will be a very limited numbers of player that making Arx contribution.
New players struggled to survive the grinding then their first conda drop like flies by the hand of PvP elites. It would be a good reason to stop playing or buy Arx for these new victims. When dev cannot recieve enough fund to maintain server operation, this game will be dead straight.
Remember the base retail price of this game is never sufficient to sustain server infrastructure or new feature expense long enough like a decade.
It is and always new players and rockie friendly env making ppl willing to pay extra, that is the key to game finicially success and long lasting.
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One slight issue with that, is you can play the PS4 version without a PSN subscription, which means you can only play Solo and not go to Open as even an option.
FDev would have to change the pricing structure, which may mean hosting all the server stuff and not using PSN at all (like Warframe?). As is though, they can't force non-sub people into Open.
Personally i am in favour of cross-play, at least as an option at first (and cross save too please FDev). Not hopeful though, consoles seem pretty ignored by the CMs and company in general.
Wanting to keep private and solo modes isn't just about not wanting to do PvP or wanting to avoid gankers.
It's also because one may want to just avoid interacting with people or interacting with strangers after spending an entire day surrounded and interrupted by people (some annoying, some not) in real life.
Being able to start up your favourite game (in my case) and just travel amongst the stars doing your own thing without being interrupted by someone (friendly interruptions included) allows one to de-stress after a long day at work.
That's why in addition to having primarily a PG/Solo account I have an open-only alternate account for when I want to be amongst strangers and an allternate strictly solo account where I deliberately don't have any friends on my friends list when I want that total isolation time.
The different modes are one of the main reasons why I bought Elite: Dangerous back in 2014, for the reason I mentioned above.
The only thing I do agree with is that crossplay with consoles should be a thing if technically possible.
It's also because one may want to just avoid interacting with people or interacting with strangers after spending an entire day surrounded and interrupted by people (some annoying, some not) in real life.
Being able to start up your favourite game (in my case) and just travel amongst the stars doing your own thing without being interrupted by someone (friendly interruptions included) allows one to de-stress after a long day at work.
That's why in addition to having primarily a PG/Solo account I have an open-only alternate account for when I want to be amongst strangers and an allternate strictly solo account where I deliberately don't have any friends on my friends list when I want that total isolation time.
The different modes are one of the main reasons why I bought Elite: Dangerous back in 2014, for the reason I mentioned above.
The only thing I do agree with is that crossplay with consoles should be a thing if technically possible.
Its not FD's responsibility for crossplay's absence.
- maybe Sony and MS don't want to share a 3rd party space sandbox. Open play needing a subscription for each of them is a hurdle too.
The Great appeal of elite dangerous is the variety of play and Its 3 equal modes.
I mean, if you ask me, the Great Appeal of Elite Dangerous is the audacious vision of setting a game in a 1:1 model of the galaxy. But that's just me. Ask twenty players you'll get 15-25 different answers.
We'll have to agree to disagree: Sony and Microsoft have a number of games with crossplay. Pretty sure it's the developer's (and publisher)'s responsibility.
Needing a subscription on PSN is a different and separate issue to crossplay, and besides that FDev could do PC - Xbox crossplay even if that was the primary issue (which i doubt).
FDev do not seem to have the will to implement crossplay, as evidenced by their "no plans", as the statement would otherwise be like "we're investigating, but having issues with platform holders".
Sony moved past the "blocking" stage (we dont know quite at which point, more than a year ago*), and from the Apple-Epic court case shows Sony may have discouraged some dev/publishers from doing cross-play by asking for a cut of MTX.
We know this isn't all games, either they dont have any MTX or are too small for Sony to bother the expense of trying to squeeze pennies out of them - Fortnite seems to have been a special case.
Take a look at the current cross-play game list (scroll to the bottom, not just the first section), and you'll see lots of smaller games:
All PS4 Crossplay Games - A Complete List Of Games You Can Play With Other Consoles In 2022 - PlayStation Universe
Want to play against/with your friends who own the same games but different consoles? We've got the whole list of all crossplay PS4 games right here.
www.psu.com
Ultimately the will from the dev/publisher has to be there to implement cross-play in the first place, which in Elite's case both of those are Frontier Developments.
* EVE: Valkyrie launched 5 years ago (five years) with cross-play PC-PS4 and VR-PSVR cross-play at that. Imagine if CQC had VR cross-play... might be/been more popular.