I just upvoted, as you say this is not acceptable.
Broken Atmospheric Lighting
- Thread starter Peter Mannion
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The question is... why did they thought it was a good artistic choice? In my opinion it's a bad sky representation from both realistic and artistic point of view.
There are few rare planets in Horizons that have thick fog and you can't see the stars in the sky. The same effect should be applied to all atmospheric worlds on the day side. There's not so much to discuss. Seeing stars on a day side is just bad.
When (if) we see real atmospheric planets at some point it will probably turn out to be the right decision. Imagine there would be no visible difference between thick and thin atmospheres...
PS
Doesn't mean I am happy with the current implementation. Dust for example could be able to block the view on some planets.
For me the biggest difference would be the weather effect and the liquid water on the surface.
Tbh I'm not fully convinced that this was an artistic decision. They are having problems with planet technology and I suppose that the visible stars are part of the issue that they are facing now (who knows maybe this was also one of the reasons why Dr Ross left, only my speculation of course).
I don't think so. They are quite open regarding the other issues without creating some cover-up stories and sharing them on a live stream. The change actually makes lots of sense and it looks good, people just can't see it because they want to feel cheated.
Which is quite funny, because we have enough real reasons to be upset in my opinion.
Having done a bit more exploration on atmospheric planets, I'm inclined to agree with you.
Dialling back the atmospheric thickness makes sense for tenuous atmospheres, and looks fine for the most part. That's not to say atmospherics don't have any issues - they still do! But making an artistic decision to have the stars appear so that there is a clearer distinction between tenuous and thick atmospheres at a later date makes total sense to me, and doesn't remove anything from the game in my opinion.
That said, atmospherics do still appear to have the following issues:
- Bloom caused by the primary star looks the wrong colour in some atmospheres (though most are fine).
- Atmospheric colour appears to be weirdly inconsistent in some cases. For example, I have seen Ammonia sunsets that are bright yellow, and other Ammonia atmospheres that are a deep red, yet both planets had the same star (G Class), atmospheric density (0.01), and planetary body type (rocky body).
- Star colour does not work at all (the issue doesn't seem to be limited to just atmospherics either). But calling this particular issue out just makes me sound like a broken record.
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Well, if they do say 'engine limitations', I'm going to be the first to call β$ on that.
After a bit more investigation, it appears that coloured lighting from the star isn't working at all. Every star may look colourful, but they always emit the same flat white light. This affects airless planets, rings, and atmospheric planets.
So, if it is an engine limitation, I'm looking forward to hearing why their awesome new engine lacks features that were working fine in their previous game engine.
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Would just like to remind everyone to try and stay on topic with this thread. Not sure where the conversation about star visibility started, but I want to avoid this thread potentially closing due to off topic conversation.
@sallymorganmoore
Could we get an update on this? Is it something you are working on? Is the difference intended? Issue link is here if it helps:
Thanks!
Could we get an update on this? Is it something you are working on? Is the difference intended? Issue link is here if it helps:
Thanks!
sallymorganmoore
Senior Community Manager : Elite Dangerous
So very, very aware.
I was just replying actually to another Commander in here regarding progress on lighting. Annoyingly I've just flipping closed it and gone off like a hurricane answering other stuff, else I'd link it! Oooo I need to tie my ankles down sometimes.
Anyway, very aware, will continue chats
Fdev showed a nice planet tech in pre-alpha videos like this one:
Hope they fix this.
They know, and I think they're working to fix.
Unfortunately, this fixes will delay new content like thargoids and (why not) Guardians on foot.
Because of all those 'issues' with the troubled Odyssey release, the story (Azimuth saga) is very slow.
Me too!!
Yep, first in the list
Got another comparison shot... and yeah it's quite apparent that stars emit only white light.
It's especially apparent when comparing the terrain as well as the reflections on the hull of the ship.
Horizons
Odyssey
Also, even the "sky" in horizons is getting a slight tint of orange, in odyssey it's very sterile.
It's especially apparent when comparing the terrain as well as the reflections on the hull of the ship.
Horizons
Odyssey
Also, even the "sky" in horizons is getting a slight tint of orange, in odyssey it's very sterile.
Another two just for good measure:
Odyssey:
Horizons:
Yup, it looks like crap in EDO.
Not that this is your issue, personally, but to imagine that all these patches later, Frontier still haven't fixed the lighting, just leaves me wondering what would have happened had Odyssey launched to zero backlash. They'd be publishing how awesome everything else; meanwhile the console players sit twiddling thumbs expecting nothing short of Odyssey cancellation since neither the more capable next gen consoles have been announced, nor have Fdev achieved acceptable performance on vastly superior PC systems running the game. RIP Xbox One and PS4.So very, very aware.
I was just replying actually to another Commander in here regarding progress on lighting. Annoyingly I've just flipping closed it and gone off like a hurricane answering other stuff, else I'd link it! Oooo I need to tie my ankles down sometimes.
Anyway, very aware, will continue chats
I hope Fdev don't lazily hide behind the backwards compatibility on next gen consoles, which in itself gives a bit of performance boost without any effort on Frontier's part.
Anyways, rant aside, I hope this seriously starts to get fixed!