To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?

[Dack Janiels]

PvP players need to understand...
1. Not all players find PvP to be "fun".
2. The ganker mini-game gets tedious, for some players.
3. Unwanted PvP is a waste of game time, for some players.

PVE players need to understand...
1. being attacked by a ship is being attacked by a ship, it should make no difference to the person being attacked whether they are human or not
2. different mini-games are tedious for different players but this is part of the game
3. playing games is a waste of time in general

 

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[Robert Maynard]

PVE players need to understand...
1. being attacked by a ship is being attacked by a ship, it should make no difference to the person being attacked whether they are human or not
2. different mini-games are tedious for different players but this is part of the game
3. playing games is a waste of time in general

PvP players need to understand...
1. Sandro made it clear that he understood that there is a difference between PvP and PvE attacks.
2. The ganker mini-game is optional using several tools at each player's disposal (not related to ship, outfitting and engineering).
3. Players choose to waste time the way they want to, not to have it wasted by other players.

 

[Dack Janiels]

PvP players need to understand...
1. Sandro made it clear that he understood that there is a difference between PvP and PvE attacks.
2. The ganker mini-game is optional using several tools at each player's disposal (not related to ship, outfitting and engineering).
3. Players choose to waste time the way they want to, not to have it wasted by other players.

PvE players need to understand...
choosing Open Play player agrees that all 3 of the above points can may (or not) happen in game.

 

[nemolomen]

Why does the aggressor need an 'excuse'?

That they want to shoot, have someone to shoot at and something to shoot with is all the 'excuse' that's needed.

Let's actually be honest here... whether it's another CMDR in an engineered Meta-FdL or a Mostly Harmless Viper NPC at the CZ the noob just picked up their first mission for... that noob is going to explode at some point in the next couple of hours and probably multiple times.

This is a learning experience... "OK, so I can't fight this ship right now, I need a better ship > CR > etc... better find out how to achieve that the quickest/safest/easiest/most enjoyable route. " The lesson and the costs of that lesson are the same to the exploding noob, whether the cause of their explosion was a Meta-CMDR or a Mostly Harmless NPC.

But I don't want to play that way, so I don't...

 

[Robert Maynard]

PvE players need to understand...
choosing Open Play player agrees that all 3 of the above points can may (or not) happen in game.

Exactly - that's the topic of the thread.

 

[Brrokk]

Getting blown up is not solved by going Solo/PG... this is the misconception and I'm sure you've found this out more than once. NPC's have PlasmaRaiFrags too and they are not afraid to send you to the rebuy screen.

Gankers can do what they feel like, they bought the game too and they decided to use more of the game's features than you did. That doesn't make them wrong, it makes them right. If you don't like it, tough. You've got the same access to the same in-gmae tools as them, to swing the odds in your favour, regardless of you preferred playstyle. If you choose not to use them, then you choose the inevitable consequences, and condolences.

As I said above /Thread.

I'm going to griefganksealclub some newbies in Deciat.

All true, and /thread indeed.

You're still misunderstanding where these threads come from though. They don't start with people moaning about gankers. They all start with someone trying to get people to play in Open. Why?

 

[Bigmaec]

All true, and /thread indeed.

You're still misunderstanding where these threads come from though. They don't start with people moaning about gankers. They all start with someone trying to get people to play in Open. Why?

So is OP a PvP false flag operation to lure people into open or is it a PvEr wanting to become one of us cool Openers?

 

[Kamiyoda]

So is OP a PvP false flag operation to lure people into open or is it a PvEr wanting to become one of us cool Openers?

Pretty sure OP plays in Open as Ive seen quite a lot of them here.

But if you want I can make a thread about why Open should be removed and should be solo only to even it out.

 

[TiberiusDuval]

Basic themes in these kind of threads: Why more people don't play in open? Make this and that feature open only. Someone suggest new features turning open less gankfest and more palatable to others. Gankers start making noises how those suggested features ruin their "totally legit gameplay", and generally fail to understand why not everyone like their totally legit gameplay style.

 

[Bigmaec]

Basic themes in these kind of threads: Why more people don't play in open? Make this and that feature open only. Someone suggest new features turning open less gankfest and more palatable to others. Gankers start making noises how those suggested features ruin their "totally legit gameplay", and generally fail to understand why not everyone like their totally legit gameplay style.

It's never PvErs wanting open changed to "open PvE" of course.
Always just the evil gankers.

 

[Felix DiCestria]

On the subject of wasted time;
Would 'Open PVE' alter the number of available pads on a megaship during a CG?

 

[Brrokk]

It's never PvErs wanting open changed to "open PvE" of course.
Always just the evil gankers.

Well, in this thread they were specifically asked the title question. I don't think anyone can be criticised for giving an honest answer.

I remember a time at work. Management: what will it take to settle the annual pay review? Union: 5% pay increase. Management: how dare you make such outrageous demands!

 

[TiberiusDuval]

It's never PvErs wanting open changed to "open PvE" of course.
Always just the evil gankers.

For example original idea in this thread would not have removed current Open. Ok it would likely reduce unwanted one-sided PVP if implemented.

 

[Dack Janiels]

For example original idea in this thread would not have removed current Open. Ok it would likely reduce unwanted one-sided PVP if implemented.

how about squadrons having the ability to disable unwanted solo BGS and Power Play in their systems?

 

[VeryLittleGravitas]

All these threads and I yet have to see a meaningful explanation (or is it an excuse?) for attacking unarmed/unwanted/no cargo newbie beyond "lol, ship go boom".

 

[TiberiusDuval]

how about squadrons having the ability to disable unwanted solo BGS and Power Play in their systems?

Squadrons do not "own" any systems.

 

[Bigmaec]

how about squadrons having the ability to disable unwanted solo BGS and Power Play in their systems?

That is something compleeeeeteeeely different.
See, one is unwanted player versus player action.
The other is haha ship go boom

 

[Robert Maynard]

how about squadrons having the ability to disable unwanted solo BGS and Power Play in their systems?

Squadrons don't own systems, and anyway, the BGS and Power Play are shared by all players - they do not belong to those who play in Open any more than it does to those who don't.

 

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