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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
VR Golgot said:
Spectrum is picking up the slack there...

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I'm near the stage of Acceptance - Star Citizen Spectrum

Not much hope left for SC Not sure where it's going?! Or when that will be completed, and if it can be achieved... I bought in this game years back in 2014. I was picturing initially massive...
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Since we're nowhere near the end of the tunnel.. - Star Citizen Spectrum

..and you stated that the Idris and Javelin would come out after SQ42 (the impossible myth) I'd say that the best thing that can happen to this project at this point is a soft launch (and I'm being...
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Where is Nightrider to deal with this outrageous FUD?
 

theBreadSultan

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Star citizen is by no means perfect, but let's be real ... It's orders of magnitude better than elite.

Fdev really dropped the ball, they had the first out of the gate advantage and blew it
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
theBreadSultan said:
Think of everything in Elite (except number of systems), star citizen does it so much better.
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Happy new year!

Here are some things that ED clearly does better, off the top of my head:
  • Motherships which don’t despawn when their launchable fighter is away, leaving the pilot stranded
  • NPC control of said launchable fighters, with commands etc
  • Trade capital ships which actually exist. And can trade.
  • On foot stealth (which exists outside of a convention demo)
  • Reliable FPS AI
  • Possession persistence and progression over multiple years (without the need for micro purchases)
  • A functioning background simulation (trade, factions, POI etc)
  • Networking & databases which put you back in a similar place, with the same stuff, if you disconnect.
  • Networking which allows for PvP without absurd desync.
  • Fully functioning starter ships for noobs.
  • Stairs which don’t kill you.

Etc etc.

Regardless of any personal preferences we may have, ED’s launched products clearly do various things better than SC’s alpha variants.

theBreadSultan said:
Lol trading in Elite is probably one of THE weakest game loops in Elite so yea, definitely.
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And yet, end to end, it’s pretty robust.

SC’s? Hmm…

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Enjoy SC all you like mate.

But try not to extol it via silly hyperbole while you’re at it eh ;)
 

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varonica said:
And the trading game loop in SC?
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Not entirely yet, no. There's a "tier 0" thing that's to be re-worked this year ("cargo rework"). It's also waiting for that "quanta" thing TonyZ promised us years ago and still is nowhere in sight. Current trading status is very limited and subject to various bugs at times (terminals not refreshing for instance). Saying it would be superior to ED is preposterous: it's just buying stuff from a terminal, selling same stuff to another terminal. If that initial terminal has stock (which have been nerfed quite heavily and is often not adequate for heavy haulers). And that's between the same few locations ever and ever again.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
theBreadSultan said:
Think of everything in Elite (except number of systems), star citizen does it so much better.

Then there are all the things that SC has, that elite will never have.
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If we are playing the comparison game, think of all the things Elite does better than SC! And no, you don't get to dismiss the number of systems just because you know SC will lose on that point. Its a space game, number of systems is a factor, and for some people a huge factor.

Also, as has been said many times before the Game A is bad so Game B is less bad is not a great position to take anyway.
 

varonica

varonica
Agony_Aunt said:
Last i heard, trading in SC was broken.
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Yeah that's why I specifically asked about trading, to see what excuse would be forthcoming, I wasn't disappointed!

theBreadSultan said:
Lol trading in Elite is probably one of THE weakest game loops in Elite so yea, definitely.
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The position that it's a weak game loop in ED (even if that were true) doesn't automatically make SC trading superior. To make a claim then when called on it to just bag the opposition really means there's no validity to the claim.
 

Agony_Aunt

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Some really weird stuff on there.

Like, what the hell is Misc Hull C - Narrative? And why does it take 30 weeks?
 
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