And how far into development are they? Nobody knows.
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And how far into development are they? Nobody knows.
So it's an alpha, not a commercial release, fine. Then, why pay the investors since there's no commercial release (and thus, no sales) ? Backer money is supposed to be a "pledge" to help develop the project, not to fill investors accounts.
They've shown off some videos, but they could easily be stuff they whipped up in Unity or Unreal in a few days and made a video out of. I mean, if you look at most of their marketing videos, they were clearly not made "in game" or even "in engine".
Just a guess, could be more could be less. You also need to consider how these "systems" would have looked like back when they were "paid for". It's more like x number of Fully Explorable and seamless Systems out of 110 on rails descent into texture with playable area behind loading screen.
When did they make that statement?
All money pledged goes to develop the game according to CIG.
But as i noted earlier, that's actually a lie. I don't see paying Calder 5 million as going to the development of the game.
Any proof of this other than "just a hunch"
Where is the sand worm ?
For sure its a guess, it might be 3 systems it might be more. Was just going off what you said, that's all. The question is, when will they deliver on the 110? When will players be able to visit every system on that star map?
I'm sure you were reading this thread a week or so ago when it came up. Someone even provided a link to the statement.
It was when CR made a statement some years ago about the game having 5-10 systems by launch, the community exploded, and Tyler Twitkin was deployed to retcon what CR had said by saying what CR really meant was 5-10 system by the time core systems are in place, but of course they were still aiming for all systems to be ready by the time of release.
As long as each don't take 9 years I'd consider that being "much faster". Oh and:
Pyro:
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Nyx:
Nyx system
The Nyx system consists of three planets orbiting an yellow-white dwarf and two asteroid belts. Nyx I and Nyx II close to the star inside the green band and Nyx III is behind the asteroid belt Glaciem Ring far outside of the green band. The most distinct aspect of the Nyx system are the many...
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Scroll down on both wikis for images.
You think those fancy promo videos were made in-engine?
I do mean not in the Star Citizen engine. They may have used their StarLumberCryEngine to generate it, but i'm pretty certain it wasn't done by moving things around and animating them using the SC game engine. Everything will have been done as bespoke animations and scenes.
It might be easier for them though to drop the assets in Unity or Unreal though and make the videos there.
And no proof, but ask yourself, can the SC game engine do half the stuff they show in those videos?
Ah yeah now I remember, he definitely said 5-10 systems at release.
Unless you try to refund, then it is "released game".
What videos do you mean when you say the SC game engine can't do something? It would be utterly pointless to make promotional videos on a different game engine. Promotional videos aren't made using gameplay systems, it's mostly animation trickery.
Watch this, they use the same lumberyard editor they make the game in,
Proof that it's actually the exact same thing, here they make a small prop as a demonstration.
Star Citizen the game is running in the StarLumberCryEngine, or whatever you want to call it. It IS the Star Citizen engine.
It was. A good example of another game engine being able to do this is the Source Engine. Just watch some promotional videos from there, hell, Valve even says it in the trailer for the Source Filmmaker, which utilizes the same game engine source games run on. You can very well animate with game engines.
How do you know?
So you are providing a link to another engine and tooling built on top of it as proof that something was done inside StarEngine? This is completely inconsequential.
BTW, that link mentions three sources of animation data, two being external to the engine. You can animate in-engine, it does not mean you will.
10 systems, in 14 years?
Even if it happens, how can anyone think this is acceptable?
It basically insinuates that there won't ever be 110 systems.
So you're saying CIG has 2 completely different versions of the engine? It's utterly nonsensical not to use SC's own engine for these animations. What do you think?
Agony Aunt made it seem like he didn't know this could be done at all. Just providing some proof that it can be done.
The player sequence is made in the engine, SFM has a built in recording function that fires up the game and records your movements, i've used it myself.
That's why they employ a whole engine team to modify their engine to their needs, no need to rely on amazon for updates.
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As mentioned I think the ones that are arguing this is a release is CIG themselves to be honest.
As for Alphas, there are alphas and alphas. Not all alphas lead to happy outcomes. An alpha that is stuck in 10+ years development and has wasted 400 millions without a single product released is quite likely to be among the ones not leading to happy outcomes. Hope that makes sense?
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