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McGlashan

McGlashan
LittleAnt said:
Hard cold fact : 67% more funding for the first 4 months of 2022 (when compared to the first 4 months of 2021)
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So what? That's not the brag you think it is. Ever since Roberts described how he adjusts the goals month-by-month according to the funds raised it's been clear that new funding records may lead to more promises, but they have absolutely no impact on CIG's ability to deliver on them. All it does it line Roberts and co's already well-gilded pockets, while the chasm between what SC is and what it's supposed to be gets wider.
Of course you probably consider that a good thing, because then it can just stay cowering behind the "alpha" excuse indefinitely.
 

Viajero

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Viajero
LittleAnt said:
Being (badly) wrong at estimating a release date while in the same time greatly expansing the goal of the project (=moving previous release dates given) is absolutely not the same thing as falsificating raw datas (funding tracker).
Do you think CIG is falsificating the fund tracker ?
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Those exemples are quite a lot more than just wrong date estimates though. Those statements show how CIG has continuously lied or grossly misrepresented the state of the project progress and readiness; and therefore supported backer confidence (and sales) through false information. The tracker serves a similar purpose of supporting backer confidence (and sales).

So the question (that you do not seem willing to answer) is still given all CIG previous lies or misrepresentations in key elements of the development why do you think the tracker is any different and exempt of those same lies/misrepresentations?
 
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VR jefranklin18

VR jefranklin18
LittleAnt said:
Being (badly) wrong at estimating a release date while in the same time greatly expansing the goal of the project (=moving previous release dates given) is absolutely not the same thing as falsificating raw datas (funding tracker).
Do you think CIG is falsificating the fund tracker ?
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When there are statements by Roberts in 2015 saying "by the end of the year everyone will get everything that was promised and more", that is not badly estimating that is lying.
 

kilvenny

kilvenny
My issue with the funding tracker is it never shows zero, that for me is a sure sign that there is something unusual happening. Without someone auditing it, I have no idea exactly, but I can think of a few possibilities.

A good way of inflating the funding tracker would be to "encourage" employees to "play" the "game" and to buy "game" packages or ships periodically. Assuming the work force grows then the proportion of guaranteed funds taken also increases. Another benefit is you will always appear to have sales. Secondary benefit, the resale on the grey market provides "stock" for enthusiastic real punters. To be honest it doesn't even need employees, you could syphon funds through the shell companies and schedule the purchases through them.
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
kilvenny said:
My issue with the funding tracker is it never shows zero, that for me is a sure sign that there is something unusual happening.
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It’s actually gone into negative numbers at points…

VR Golgot said:
It's impossible to know really, as the funding tracker is a black box.

It has dipped into the negative at points though:

https://imgur.com/XKJ5amE
Source: https://i.imgur.com/XKJ5amE.mp4


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It's a mystery wrapped in an enigma ultimately.

Who knows what these massive dips were about in 2020 for example ¯\(ツ)/¯

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Source: the fan-run 'Crowdfunded Development Spreadsheet V2'.
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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
CIG are looking into the disappearing credits

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/us38zl
Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/us38zl/update_cig_is_investigating_and_merging_the_money/


I like the fan theory that it might be the 30K recovery recording state incorrectly. Seems to fit with the people returning to pre-session amounts etc.

Although they might want to fix the ship dupe thing too ;)

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/us38zl/_/i917ukt
Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/us38zl/update_cig_is_investigating_and_merging_the_money/i917ukt/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/us38zl/_/i91bx4x
Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/us38zl/update_cig_is_investigating_and_merging_the_money/i91bx4x/
 

Darkfyre99

Darkfyre99
Mole HD said:
New space forklift... the Drake Mule. I assume it's for pushing crashed space fighters off the decks of Idris'sss since it can't pick up any boxes or do anything useful in the slightest.

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I've used actual forklifts, and that thing is not a forklift. It looks like it's sole purpose is to move large numbers of small (and maybe medium 1x2x1) cargo boxes, including what appears to be attachment point(s) on the front. The arms of the "forklift" are too far apart, and are oriented incorrectly, to be useful to lift heavy things, and they don't have anywhere near the necessary vertical traversal distance to lift those things to higher elevations.

Out of morbid curiosity, I went to CIG's webstore, but didn't see it for sale there. Has CIG finally added something to the game that can't be bought for real world dollars, or is it currently hidden behind the $1000 backer curtain, so the big spenders can show off their level of access before the plebeians can get their wallets on one?
 

ZeeWolf

ZeeWolf
Mole HD said:
New space forklift... the Drake Mule. I assume it's for pushing crashed space fighters off the decks of Idris'sss since it can't pick up any boxes or do anything useful in the slightest.

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Never been done before... apart from Fork Lift simulator and Shenmue

Star Citizen feels like a super compliation game of German sims combined into one vastly more expensive, less well designed and less robust project.

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