Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Intrepid3D said:
To me its just a bit of humour.
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Yeah but it’s just so tone deaf. They reference a bug from an existing half complete system, and then… hard sell two brand new half-complete vehicles...

Ho ho?

I dunno. I just don’t think SC being a perpetual-alpha is actually that funny in real terms. Not with this funding system anyway.

I mean look at the Mule:

  • No real reason to exist currently. So they imagine a 'have to park far away' scenario. (Only currently required if the bugged land base turrets shoot at your ship invisibly).
  • Promises to become 'doubly useful' if/when the cargo refactor arrives.
  • Doesn’t actually look like it could place large boxes on any ships with external grids, because it seemingly can’t raise the boxes up. (But who knows because they’ve designed, built, polished and sold it before the feature is actually active).

It’s just an obvious marketing quick flip. (Think of a new pseudo niche, give it the glossy big talk, deliver it quickly thanks to existing tech, promise future tech will make it truly great. Leave the devs to sort out the mess…)

Nope. Balls to them I say.

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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
What is kinda funny is that Jackfrags is on his third day of SC filming. Apparently his last 10hrs of mishaps weren’t enough to make a glossy vid ;)

Definitely not a quick flip this time…

 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
VR Golgot said:
What is kinda funny is that Jackfrags is on his third day of SC filming. Apparently his last 10hrs of mishaps weren’t enough to make a glossy vid ;)

Definitely not a quick flip this time…

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Well, to be fair, at least he hasn't declared that he is willing to spend all his money on SC yet!

I wonder how many days/weeks/months CIG contracted him for.
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
Navigare Necesse Est said:
Yeah, right - "spoilers". People fall for the dumbest excuses today.
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no... like I said I am not happy with how cig do things and clearly the game is taking hugely longer than its meant to. I just get tired of the endless "it's a scam" "it's never going to come out" that is continuously stated in various places.

whilst I do believe the project is missmanaged I also believe S42 will come out at some point. . if you don't that is your perogative.

janky as It.may be SC when it works (and it does work sometimes) is really impressive in places and refusing to even acknowledge that is as biased as the so called shills imo. 2 sides of the same coin.
 

Skizomeuh

Skizomeuh
Well I didn't read someone telling SC is ugly. Though it can be aesthetically debatable sometimes, because of lack of soul, inconsistency of art direction or rip off tendency.

Yet, being visually impressive doesn't imply it will inevitably impressive in the other departments (different people, different constraints, different craftsmanship). And a game is the combination, if not the alchemy, of all these departments. And there's a lot of departments where CIG have yet to even just prove they're able to do a consistent and efficient job on par with the visuals.

As I always say a good environment design doesn't instantly make for a good level design.

Take the case of UI: sure flashy and very Hollywood-esque but from a practical functional perspective it's terrible. For the user. But also on the development side as you can easily see how messy, inconsistent it is and how there was barely any forethoughts regarding large scale implementation, modularity, etc...

I won't say they can't, I'm sure they have talented people not only in the graphics department, but leads and managers, overall design direction, probably peripheral structural problems (employees turn over, crunch culture), business model keep ruining their efforts.

Actually you even can get an impressive game with barely any graphics. A contrario you hardly have a game solely relying on graphics.
 

Navigare Necesse Est

Navigare Necesse Est
[VR] Mad Mike said:
no... like I said I am not happy with how cig do things and clearly the game is taking hugely longer than its meant to. I just get tired of the endless "it's a scam" "it's never going to come out" that is continuously stated in various places.

whilst I do believe the project is missmanaged I also believe S42 will come out at some point. . if you don't that is your perogative.

janky as It.may be SC when it works (and it does work sometimes) is really impressive in places and refusing to even acknowledge that is as biased as the so called shills imo. 2 sides of the same coin.
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The endless it's a scam would stop if they delivered. But theyy can't and don't so pepple keep calling them out for their fraudulent practices.
 

Viajero

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Viajero

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Viajero
VR Golgot said:
What is kinda funny is that Jackfrags is on his third day of SC filming. Apparently his last 10hrs of mishaps weren’t enough to make a glossy vid ;)

Definitely not a quick flip this time…

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Given his track record with previous paid promotions, the timing of his SC streaming bout and how poorly SC is behaving for him I’d say the possibility he may actually have some kind of commercial agreement with CIG directly (or indirectly like Rexzilla) is quite high imo.
 

Viajero

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Viajero
[VR] Mad Mike said:
no... like I said I am not happy with how cig do things and clearly the game is taking hugely longer than its meant to. I just get tired of the endless "it's a scam" "it's never going to come out" that is continuously stated in various places.

whilst I do believe the project is missmanaged I also believe S42 will come out at some point. . if you don't that is your perogative.

janky as It.may be SC when it works (and it does work sometimes) is really impressive in places and refusing to even acknowledge that is as biased as the so called shills imo. 2 sides of the same coin.
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I don’t think SC is impressive, and it is not just the bugs, it is still fundamentally broken (physics, persistence, AI, sync issues, stability etc etc) and severely incomplete after 10+ years and almost half a billion spent on it. Does not even particularly impress visually, especially given latest gen games out there including consoles.

Only part that is actually impressive, assuming we believe CIG word, is their sales performance and how they have avoided regular market reviews and more widespread scrutiny while at the same time prolly having the wildest monetization of any game out there even before launch.
 
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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Viajero said:
Given his track record with previous paid promotions, the timing of his SC streaming bout and how poorly SC is behaving for him I’d say the possibility he may actually have some kind of commercial agreement with CIG directly (or indirectly like Rexzilla) is quite high imo.
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I've genuinely no idea. He could simply be trying to make slick adventures because he thinks that's better content. But regardless of motive, he's definitely misrepresenting his experience with the vids.

(And it's just daft because he could make much more honest vids that are still entertaining. The bugs are genuinely amusing ;). And they genuinely have some fun navigating them and bouncing around the jank box. Just show that ¯\(ツ)/¯ )

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FWIW the AngryGamer's put out a meme bundle that leans the other way ;)

Source: https://youtu.be/lwruSbJGdGs
 

Xink

Xink
It's a scam because they keep baiting and switching people with "Playable Now" ads all over the place, purely coincidentally in tune with free flies, promotions and ship sales, on what is a 10+ year in progress buggy as all hell early access title with very little gameplay to show for it.

Not complicated. It walks and talks like a duck. That makes it a duck.

Buy an Idris. Buy two.
 

Viajero

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Viajero
VR Golgot said:
I've genuinely no idea. He could simply be trying to make slick adventures because he thinks that's better content. But regardless of motive, he's definitely misrepresenting his experience with the vids.

(And it's just daft because he could make much more honest vids that are still entertaining. The bugs are genuinely amusing ;). And they genuinely have some fun navigating them and bouncing around the jank box. Just show that ¯\(ツ)/¯ )

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FWIW the AngryGamer's put out a meme bundle that leans the other way ;)

Source: https://youtu.be/lwruSbJGdGs
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Comments are also great. This one tho:

“If only the developers for this small studio received some funding to help develop this game.” 😂
 

thistle

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Viajero said:
I don’t think SC is impressive, and it is not just the bugs, it is still fundamentally broken (physics, persistence, AI, sync issues, stability etc etc) and severely incomplete after 10+ years and almost half a billion spent on it. Does not even particularly impress visually, especially given latest gen games out there including consoles.

Only part that is actually impressive, assuming we believe CIG word, is their sales performance and how they have avoided regular market reviews and more widespread scrutiny while at the same time prolly having the wildest monetization of any launched game out there.
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Clouds. I give them credit for some clouds.
 
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Old Duck

Old Duck
Darkfyre99 said:
There's only one way to find out ;)
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Agony_Aunt said:
Come on Duck, you've been on the fence about this for how long now?

Do or do not.
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You're supposed to be talking me down from this ledge, not pushing me off it. You all are losing your mojo, LOL.

I started the process of downloading SC, but I'm a bit "fussy" when it comes to what software I install on my computer, along with who I give my personal information to (even something simple like an email address). I'm not sure I want to be on CiG's mailing list.. And thanks to you lot, I have all these doubts now about CiG's honesty, so that makes me more wary of installing their software. My computer is my castle, and I don't lower the drawbridge for just anyone.

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I blame Obsidian Ant, Drew Wager, and now even Captain Collins - they keep leading me down the path of temptation!

I am weak; weak I say! Save me from myself!!
 
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