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Langley, IMO good will by backers 1 year or older has been exhausted, there has been a large influx of new people since the Odyssey debacle that has not only maintained but accelerated with new eyes on it due to new to it streamers with millions of subscribers getting in to it.
But the pool of fresh backers is not infinite, funding could easily dry up, i think CIG know this, they know unless they have something substantial to show for all the time and money its going to be increasingly difficult to find funding sources.
There does seem to be a real push now to move the game forward significantly, to get it on the road to completing it, because they realise they are at the point where they have to sooner rather than later.
But the pool of fresh backers is not infinite, funding could easily dry up, i think CIG know this, they know unless they have something substantial to show for all the time and money its going to be increasingly difficult to find funding sources.
There does seem to be a real push now to move the game forward significantly, to get it on the road to completing it, because they realise they are at the point where they have to sooner rather than later.
I agree that there appears to be a concerted push to implement relatively-basic versions of the previously-promised "super in-depth BDSSE" features (see the many design documents and Q&As over the years), aka scope reduction but it's better than nothing.
Regardless, as Turbulent get control of more and more of the project, production does appear to be getting more focused.
And in the meantime, more concept sales
Regardless, as Turbulent get control of more and more of the project, production does appear to be getting more focused.
And in the meantime, more concept sales
external data being external to "wot Chris says"
I agree that there appears to be a concerted push to implement relatively-basic versions of the previously-promised "super in-depth BDSSE" features (see the many design documents and Q&As over the years), aka scope reduction but it's better than nothing.
Regardless, as Turbulent get control of more and more of the project, production does appear to be getting more focused.
And in the meantime, more concept sales
You're right it does seem to be Turbulent rather than CIG who are moving it forward, i like a lot of what's coming out of that studio and the progress they are making with it.
I know Turb are supposed to be the PU's saviours, but I'm not really seeing it so far:
To date they've done Hospital interiors...
(And helped replace iCache with the Entity Graph stuff on the Networking side, and worked on internal tools etc).
We'll know more about their PU moxie after the much heralded derelict settlements finally arrive, I suspect.
EDIT: They're also quite happy to join in on the dream-weaving, as far as I can tell
Yeah I finally had a look into their PU team, and it does look possible:
MTL Sandbox 1 (previously Modular - MTL)
Although it seems they're primarily on assets, with just as few tasks with designers attached:
They're all art teams alone, with the exception of these 3:
Bit weird for there to be no engineers etc attached to any of that. Makes me wonder if they're just designing locations for existing gameplay primarily.
But the 'Tier 0' tag on Hospitals does kinda suggest that they're going to be the 'stuff for now' guys in the PU. While the true miracles are performed over in SQ42 land...
I guess the SQ42-friendly doctors & nurses stuff lined up for 3.15 is what's supposed to fill the scenes they're building:
If Turb really are the PU heroes for now though, then there's a bit of a gap until their next novel content. Building Interiors and Derelict Spaceship POI scheduled for Q2 2022...
(But hey long way to go. Let's see if 3.15 even goes live in Q3 first
To date they've done Hospital interiors...
(And helped replace iCache with the Entity Graph stuff on the Networking side, and worked on internal tools etc).
We'll know more about their PU moxie after the much heralded derelict settlements finally arrive, I suspect.
EDIT: They're also quite happy to join in on the dream-weaving, as far as I can tell
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CIG is just progressing in the alpha, tech after tech and feature after feature. There is no concerted push.
Revenues are increasing because ship sale events are more frequent and whales are buying more ships and jpegs.
More revenues = more profits = more dividends for Chris and family and Calders
This is good for Store Citizen
For sure the launch of Odyssey was a gift horse for CIG. But unless FD make another Odyssey soon, then as you note, that well will dry up.
Counterpoint: Chris Roberts is still in charge.
Turbulent have done a lot more than hospital interiors and a bit of fudgery with the server meshing, you're forgetting all the shipwreck POI's and work on the upcoming planetary bases along with the global navmesh work for the NPC's...not to mention completing the design work and implemetation of the Pyro system. More importantly, whatever they've done to date has been produced on time and workable out of the box. For a relatively small PU focused team and with the bulk of Ci¬G being pressganged into dragging Sqn 404 from the depths of development misery, they're doing not too badly so farI know Turb are supposed to be the PU's saviours, but I'm not really seeing it so far:
To date they've done Hospital interiors...
(And helped replace iCache with the Entity Graph stuff on the Networking side, and worked on internal tools etc).
We'll know more about their PU moxie after the much heralded derelict settlements finally arrive, I suspect.
EDIT: They're also quite happy to join in on the dream-weaving, as far as I can tell
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Turbulent have done a lot more than hospital interiors and a bit of fudgery with the server meshing, you're forgetting all the shipwreck POI's and work on the upcoming planetary bases along with the global navmesh work for the NPC's...not to mention completing the design work and implemetation of the Pyro system. More importantly, whatever they've done to date has been produced on time and workable out of the box. For a relatively small PU focused team and with the bulk of Ci¬G being pressganged into dragging Sqn 404 from the depths of development misery, they're doing not too badly so far
One has to wonder what the 900+ people at CIG are actually doing.
Chris explained this to Richard Garriott, ice cubes just need to move their arms about in space and they will move in whatever direction they want. It's science.The ice cubes are made of gravity goo. Does no-one read the lore?
Yeah I'm just talking about what's on your SSD
. Not future work.And according to the tracker that's all they've delivered to date in terms of PU additions. Hospitals ¯\(ツ)/¯
MTL Sandbox 1 [Locations (Montreal) in the Monthly Reports]
Game Services Team [Turbulent in the Monthly Reports]
The Tools (Montreal) team doesn't seem to be listed on the tracker still, but is working on the 'Mighty Bridge' and procedural location tool etc.
AFAIK Turbulent are nothing to do with the navmesh stuff. (The only team involved is the existing AI Tech & Features team).
Maybe I'm missing some teams or something, but that seems to be all of the ones they have, outside the website guys. (They don't seem to mention any other teams or projects outside those in their Aug '21 round table.)
Seems a bit early to see them as riding in on a white charger for the PU at any rate
A well made fan video of a game we will never get to play:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvBnSrcShBk
It is like secondary nostalgia!
It is like secondary nostalgia!
Lots of well-marinated sceptics in the mix…
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/v7pumv/comment/ibn5auj/
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/v7pumv/comment/ibn6z1p/
Lots of hopefuls though, like this guy.
Truly a generation game.
Although...
Space dad's son more interested in shooters right now like CoD. Oh dear...
And a reply...
You gotta intrigue him a bit with some cool clipsand LTI'S
Yes, use deceptive and predatory marketing tactics on your own son. That's ethical.
Hah, and this guy was downvoted for telling the truth. Gave him an upvote.