COMPLETED CG Professor Palin requests deliveries of Thargoid artefacts

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Missed top 10% by 21 😆 Oh well. It will take a MUCH shorter farm to just get the mats. Was simply bored.

15 minutes before end, the bottom threshold for top10% was 1266 - inara was a bit off with 1231 (not inara's fault, but commanders being sneaky)
 
I'm also top 10%, and yes, it was boring.
That and the fact that three systems right next to Arque (Didio, Novas and Sosong) have had permanent NHSS reappear that contain farmable sensors and probes...
I didn't know about this permanent NHSS, but collecting Sensors from crashed thargoid ships in Cornsar, Maia, Merope and other systems was still faster, be it from SRV or by limpets.
And now, this reappear of thargoids in three systems, isn't it against Salvation? They are not really defeated.
 
Top 10% with 1,281 donated. I finally perfected my collection technique...just as the CG finished. It wasn't a lot of fun and I think my binge watching of the Big Bang Theory must have taken that into the top 10% of watched boxed sets.
 
I hope Big thargoid war is coming, not yet but later. As cmdr Ubermick wrote in another thread:
On a stream last month they said there's something big coming, something that's never been done in Elite Dangerous before they can't tell us what that is
Big war, the whole Bubble attacked, burning stations everywhere - thargoid motherships, thargoids on foot. Lot of work for everybody - to save people from stations, to deliver medicines, to fight scouts, interceptors, motherships. And something special - our Fleet Carriers can be damaged, too!!! This would be interesting! I know they are indestructible, but it's not guarantee they can't be damaged - and then we need 2 - 3 billions for reparation? What a beutiful bloody chaos :) (y)
In this big war we need all possible help - superweapons, special double-engineered modules, whatever. I'm sure prof. Palin will give something in phase 3.
And I'm sure Salvation will be defeated, imprisoned or killed, and knowledge about his biological weapon will be lost or prohibited.

By the way I didn't receive message about carrier weekly upkeep, but in management screen I can see it's 35 M - what's this? From 20 M last weeks, to 35? Inflation?
It's not complaining, I have too much credits however - just curious why?
 
It’s not broken, it’s just not 100%, and who says it should be? Sometimes limpets crash and that’s not 100% either. I think they should have gone along with it, research limpets still retrieve plenty of samples and the failure rate still affects everybody so it’s fair.
It's broken because FD says it's broken, and cancelled an identical CG for exactly the same reasons five years ago.

The closure has come about due to a bug with the research limpets spotted over the weekend, stopping the goal being completed to a high level.
... where the aforementioned bug was research limpets failing to return tissue samples 100% of the time. It's also noteworthy that:
  • Before that bug five years ago, Research limpets did return Thargoid tissue samples 100% of the time; and
  • Using research limpets against non-Thargoid targets works 100% of the time, even today

The fact history forgot it was confirmed as a bug five years ago, and FD failed to do anything about it between then and now doesn't change that.

The dude on the forums said it had to be 100% Take it up with them, they got it cancelled 🤷‍♀️
OK, let's bury the hatchet.

I did not cancel the CG myself, nor did I ask to get this cancelled, nor did I imply the CG should be cancelled because of this bug before that occurred. If you can prove otherwise, I'll happily say "Yeah, I probably shouldn't have pushed that line".

I posted a bug report because, with people already collecting tissue samples people were already asking "what the trick was" or "how to guarantee getting samples" and other such things and thought it would be helpful for people to see that. I did highlight that this same issue got exactly the same sort of CG cancelled five years ago. I did highlight the risk that posed to the proposal recent tissue sampling. I did highlight FD failed to resolve this issue five years ago. I got people to add their reports to the bug. I am totally unsurprised that they cancelled the CG because of this bug, and I may even be happy and supportive of their decision because it acknowledges a years-old issue.

But I never asked for the CG to be cancelled, because I literally do not have that sort of authority over FD's agency, . Which is the critical thing here.

FD chose to cancel the CG. If they got together in a room and said "Well damn, some guy who we don't even consider an influencer in this space said there's still an outstanding bug with tissue sampling... LETS CANCEL THE WHOLE CG AND IMPACT OUR WHOLE PLAYERBASE" ... that's a god awful decision that speaks volumes of FD's design and decision processes, of which there's a litany of examples of bad decisions through the game's history.

As you previously, and @Brrokk here, point out, FD could have done other things. Maybe they could have reduced volumes, maybe they could've extended the CG... who knows. If they'd done that, I wouldn't have been going "Wow this is so dumb, CG should just be cancelled"... I'd just have been doing what I usually do if I think the gameplay sucks because of design or bug; simply not do it.

But then if, despite the previous assertion from FD this was a bug, and they're now considering this working as intended... closing off the bug as "fixed" is opaque and unsatisfactory. They need to come out and clarify what the intended mechanics are, because the only hard facts come from five years ago, where FD confirmed this was a bug.

But no, FD chose to cancel it, and that's entirely on them, and there's two ways this could've come about.

  • They reviewed the bug, realised it had such significant ramifications, whether purely on the CG or at a more technical level, and felt their only option was to cancel it; or
  • They just went "Oh, a single bugreport which has 11 confirmations and minimal votes, not even making our "top bugs" list... well let's just torpedo our own narrative on such a sliver of information".

Regardless of which one it was, I have absolutely no control over that, and again, nor did I ever pitch cancelling the CG as an option; that would be ridiculous.

The bottom line is this: The cancelling of a tissue sampling CG due to this bug is not without precedent, for reasons only FD will know. I and multiple others bugreported it then, and I and multiple others bugreported it now. If FD's response is to panic and hit the "cancel" button on a narrative event for what is, compared to some bugreports, an anecdotal note at best... that just hammers home how fearful FD is of their own product.

But to suggest I personally made this happen? That's insane.
 
I didn't do well on this CG. But at least now i know how that corrosive cargo damage works. Hint to all who haven't tried it: It basicaly dumps all the damage to a single system meaning that the cargo of over 300t will demolish your FSD instantly and leave you stranded to the space. The next thing to go was the canopy and then the ship blow up before the oxygen ran out.

And here i thought that the damage would be more like death by thousand paper cuts...
 
I didn't do well on this CG. But at least now i know how that corrosive cargo damage works. Hint to all who haven't tried it: It basicaly dumps all the damage to a single system meaning that the cargo of over 300t will demolish your FSD instantly and leave you stranded to the space. The next thing to go was the canopy and then the ship blow up before the oxygen ran out.

And here i thought that the damage would be more like death by thousand paper cuts...
On my Anaconda, even 192 units of thargoid sensors were sufficient. Hardly started by the carrier, the systems fail. At least a restart helped and I was able to land on my carrier. Then I packed the 192 units back and delivered them individually with 48 units each, with my Keelback.
After that I first collected materials for the Anticorossion cargo racks, unlocked them at the Techbroker and got a new Anaconda. It can now store 128 tons.
Unfortunately, I did everything a bit late, so I could only deliver 432 tons each with both accounts. It was easily enough for the top 50%, but unfortunately not for the top 25%.
 
Why? Not a frequent forum user by the looks of it.
And it's not like the game tells you that you get part of the reward now but have to wait for the rest.
You're right, I excuse to cmdr. N.Sibirtsev. Such a questions have been asked (and answered) so many times in CG forums, I immediately thought it's joke.
It's not special double-engineered reward, so it should be tomorrow morning or afternoon - but we are never sure 100%.
 
Got 866 handed in by Wednesday morning, but made a final stretch on short sessions along the day to reach 1.389 tons. And even went to bed a little worried 😕
 
By the way I didn't receive message about carrier weekly upkeep, but in management screen I can see it's 35 M - what's this? From 20 M last weeks, to 35? Inflation?
It's not complaining, I have too much credits however - just curious why?
Is normal, I also had it with my carriers.
First debit about 20 million credits, since only proportionally.
From the first full week, with everything that you have bought, the maintenance increases accordingly. With 35 million credits, you must have bought all the modules that are possible.
 
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