What a nonsense.
What feature do hope will be updated/refreshed for early 2023?
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If you are looking for games that don't change Walmart usually has lots of single player games in its bargain bin.
The funny thing is, during the run up to the 2013 Alpha, I’d gotten the impression that Frontier had done their research on common MMO mistakes, especially the ones made by early pioneers like Ultima Online, and were doing their best to avert them. By the end of premium beta in mid 2014, it was slowly becoming clear that whoever was truly in charge of development didn’t care about that, and were treating this game as if it were a single player game… only online with the possibility of playing with (or against) other players.
Frontier has constantly catered to the least common denominator, and fixed complaints (some justified, some pure “I want it NOW!”) by treating the symptoms, as opposed to the cause. They continually sacrifice existing depth, to give the complaining players guaranteed results… which is another way of describing grind. The Economic Sim, Supercruise, Engineering, BGS play… they all had their flaws as originally implemented, but far better solutions existed than removing existing depth. We can wish otherwise, but after eight years, Frontier has pretty much followed this pattern since before the game went live. We can only adapt to those changes, if we want to keep playing.
I’m just glad I enjoy a wide variety of activities. The other night, I had a rare opportunity for a two hour play session, so I decided to vagabond trade my way to the site of the latest Buckyball Race, flying my Cobra Mark III. Only I’d restrict myself to Odyssey settlements, rather than stations, when possible. I also keep an eye out for any missions in going in that direction.
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(There’s a no-engineering division, but it’s a specific Cobra Mark III build)
I was in a bit of a pugnacious mood, so when a would be pirate in a Type-6, ranked expert to my novice, threatened me, I decided to do a spot of bounty hunting, rather than outfly him in Supercruise. I was a bit rusty, and I had an cheap, unengineered C-rated warrant scanner installed, so it took me a while complete the scan while evading his fire, but once I finished, I made short work of him. Netted me several bounties, some data, and some transport parts… just not the chemical manipulators I’d been hoping for.
I would love to try something like this.
The incentive would be optional fun. Artificially enforcing the incentive by disallowing basic quality of life features...well, that's been one of this game's bugbears since its inception.
Call it 'casual gameplay' or whatever you like, the barrier to entry to do the things you would actually like to do with your ships remains the same excessive duration. That will always be the case so long as Engineers continues to be a power spike over baseline equipment, instead of the tweaks and adjustments we were sold on conceptually.
Engineered weapons & internals definitely ramp up firepower significantly, but it's not near enough to keep up with the hitpoint inflation.
I have never had a ship that disallowed me to have either of the assist modules. Sometimes I chose not to have one or the other.
So what's your point, if you're already experiencing what it's like to not be bound by artificial barriers to QOL? Clearly your gameplay experience has not been ruined by it?
I think my point is quite obvious. Your statement made no sense. Make sure you know what the words mean.
Honestly, it's not just a FD thing. MP was a big thing last decade and devs kept and keep making old mistakes designin MP.The funny thing is, during the run up to the 2013 Alpha, I’d gotten the impression that Frontier had done their research on common MMO mistakes, especially the ones made by early pioneers like Ultima Online, and were doing their best to avert them. By the end of premium beta in mid 2014, it was slowly becoming clear that whoever was truly in charge of development didn’t care about that, and were treating this game as if it were a single player game… only online with the possibility of playing with (or against) other players.
Frontier has constantly catered to the least common denominator, and fixed complaints (some justified, some pure “I want it NOW!”) by treating the symptoms, as opposed to the cause. They continually sacrifice existing depth, to give the complaining players guaranteed results… which is another way of describing grind. The Economic Sim, Supercruise, Engineering, BGS play… they all had their flaws as originally implemented, but far better solutions existed than removing existing depth. We can wish otherwise, but after eight years, Frontier has pretty much followed this pattern since before the game went live. We can only adapt to those changes, if we want to keep playing.
I’m just glad I enjoy a wide variety of activities. The other night, I had a rare opportunity for a two hour play session, so I decided to vagabond trade my way to the site of the latest Buckyball Race, flying my Cobra Mark III. Only I’d restrict myself to Odyssey settlements, rather than stations, when possible. I also keep an eye out for any missions in going in that direction.
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(There’s a no-engineering division, but it’s a specific Cobra Mark III build)
I was in a bit of a pugnacious mood, so when a would be pirate in a Type-6, ranked expert to my novice, threatened me, I decided to do a spot of bounty hunting, rather than outfly him in Supercruise. I was a bit rusty, and I had an cheap, unengineered C-rated warrant scanner installed, so it took me a while complete the scan while evading his fire, but once I finished, I made short work of him. Netted me several bounties, some data, and some transport parts… just not the chemical manipulators I’d been hoping for.
I don't see what is not making sense to you. You responded to my point about quality of life being sacrificed for the sake of artificial incentivization, as opposed to letting it be optional and up to player choice, with the claim that you've never encountered a situation outfitting your ships where you encountered that artificial barrier. Which runs contrary to the oft-repeated idea that there's anything meaningful behind the artificial module restrictions, and that it contributes anything to the level of fun in the game.
There is absolutely no ship in the ED game that disallows either of the assist modules.
A cmdr can chose to install them. Or not install them. They are not disallowed.
For PvE that isn't true for the most part. Cascade rails to counter SCBs and power plant sniping still work fine. Most NPCs blow up between 80 and 40 % hull still intact. That's for CZ. In a res they're much weaker anyway.
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your argument makes logical sense.... indeed in reality ships would not have pilots at all it would all be automated... but FD chose to not allow this for gameplay reasons. now for similar reasons my suggestion will also likely be shot down but for me IF FD were to implement something similar personally I would rather it be using ships crew, so that they would pilot your ships. this would mean small ships would not have this feature ... but equally I think it should hypothetically only be bought in when there are other things we could be doing whilst the ship was being piloted....... so manually scanning the system for UC or for interesting "stuff" whilst the crew flew, or repairing ship parts or contacting smugglers making arrangements
but equally I don't think it will happen
I like the idea that a ship having an SLF bay equipped could gain SC assist & autodock functionality without having to fit those modules by making use of the NPC crew
indeed. the fact that they get full pay regardless of if they are doing anything or even if they are not on my ship grates.I like the idea that a ship having an SLF bay equipped could gain SC assist & autodock functionality without having to fit those modules by making use of the NPC crew
let them earn their supper
It’s a far better idea than giving every ship free automation, or moving some popular modules from optional slots to their own dedicated slots. At least the decision to hire crew is a meaningful one, one of the few that remain, despite the general drive to remove all depth from this game, leaving nothing but a grindy Skinner box.indeed. the fact that they get full pay regardless of if they are doing anything or even if they are not on my ship grates.
let them earn their supper
On Pythons or Anacondas, sure. Good luck sniping the power plant on anything else with enough consistency to be faster than chewing through hull. It is true that RES sites contain weaker ships. (I still think the way RES sites work...or even that they exist to begin with...is a bit silly.)
And yet, in the current state of the game, is detracted from by the XP reduction for having a crew aboard, let alone the stability of multicrew...or even the mere presence of your crew in the seats on your ship....