Is this really it? Is this the whole game? Did I miss something?

[SuBSynk]

Or maybe instead of seeing them as pointless, the developers will realize that, since multiple paying customers are complaining about a lack of depth, that there's a lack of depth? I mean, FSM forbid there should be anything in a forum for a beta game that's not unicorns and rainbows, and further should he push from his carb-loaded body the notion that we should discuss anything that has already been talked about at any other point, right?

You think that there is a lack of depth, i'd say you have a lack of imagination. Your points are all addressed in the DDF and your post is similar to countless others over the last few weeks.

Its making these forums unbearably frustrating, try actually reading through the DDF on each point you have made, try taking in the points that have been put to you in this thread maybe?

 

[Spiggs]

what game would you recommend us, mate? what has the depth?

It would appear that the OP has already found their ideal game right here on the forums. The only way to win, is not to play. OTIO. *Wanders off to test beta, doesn't look back!*

 

[atxferret]

I also wish people would stop trying to convince others that there's nothing wrong. You have to ask yourself, in its current condition, do you really think that this game could possibly be reviewed well at all, except by people that really, really want a very repetitive space-flight sim that essentially doesn't even have missions, back story, or any details at all about the surroundings? Do you think anyone but they current backers are going to be interested in something this simplistic, that is, at the same time, so difficult to learn? And do you really think you're going to get any of the promised content if no one buys the game?

All of these things that the devs have promised...have you guys not played any other video games? Things are always promised. Grand, spectacular, game changing and defining things. Those things don't happen, though, if the initial game doesn't draw in a significant number of buyers. And this game needs a lot of help before it's going to draw in much of anyone that hasn't already paid for it.

 

[Mhiester]

You think that there is a lack of depth, i'd say you have a lack of imagination. Your points are all addressed in the DDF and your post is similar to countless others over the last few weeks.

Its making these forums unbearably frustrating, try actually reading through the DDF on each point you have made, try taking in the points that have been put to you in this thread maybe?

Where does it say that DDF = Game on release?

Also, what imagined story will let me enjoy killing Birza around Azeban more than once?

 

[talshiarr]

Almost as frustrating is having "read the DDF" and "it's a beta" tossed out as the supposed trump card to any concerns. I have read it and I like almost everything I read therein. But we're one week away from Beta ending, and one month away from release and only the barest fraction of any of it is there.

 

[SuBSynk]

It would appear that the OP has already found their ideal game right here on the forums. The only way to win, is not to play. OTIO. *Wanders off to test beta, doesn't look back!*

Yea i hear you, i should not get drawn in to yet another pointless debate.

Think ill go earn some credits and set up my stream, funny how outside of the official forums everyone i talk to is wildly excited and optimistic about Elite...Same old same old i suppose.

Don't bother trying to get a further rise out me, i'm out.

ps, mods shut this this thread we all know where it will end

 

[Lestat]

You think that there is a lack of depth, i'd say you have a lack of imagination. Your points are all addressed in the DDF and your post is similar to countless others over the last few weeks.

Its making these forums unbearably frustrating, try actually reading through the DDF on each point you have made, try taking in the points that have been put to you in this thread maybe?

What Frontier dose on the Design Decision Forum they give us a ideas how they think it should be and Payed Backers who payed to be on DDF give suggestions. Some time someone point out a problem that could affect the game. Then they adjust it if they also see the same problem. Then repost the adjustments.

 

[atxferret]

You think that there is a lack of depth, i'd say you have a lack of imagination. Your points are all addressed in the DDF and your post is similar to countless others over the last few weeks.

Its making these forums unbearably frustrating, try actually reading through the DDF on each point you have made, try taking in the points that have been put to you in this thread maybe?

What points? That I should use my imagination and that other people like the repetition, so I should, too? And you do realize that things in the DDA are things that will likely only be implemented if the game is at least somewhat successful, right? Also, have you seen what happens to games that start out really shallow, then gain depth as they age? They don't do so well, and they often don't get much content. Go see what SquareEnix had to do with FFXIV for an example. It takes completely relaunching a game, essentially as a different game, to recapture the attention of potential buyers, and then you're really lucky if the media pays you enough attention for anyone to even notice.

 

[Gibbon]

His point about the empty feeling of the game is valid. The buggy netcode dissuades at least me from using open play (never credited for bounties) for the time being, and there is no life to the NPCs (until release, and we have no idea how it's going to look). Asp Explorer's points about exploring and finding new things are valid for him (and I assume he isn't alone), but for others, planets are little more than pretty, pointless spheres. They will stay that way until planetary landing becomes a thing. For now, we'll have to look to the the things that are implemented in detail, which largely surround interacting with other people. There's quite the gap in it right now. As an example: conflict zones are a sad excuse for war, when it supposedly ruins the economy of the region, despite not having an impact on the traders flying through it, or the stations that are so important to the functioning of a region of space (why no military or terrorist attacks on stations?)

You can say that the game is all about being alone in the vast universe, but then why is it a multiplayer game, and why do ships have such easily accessible comms functions? Noctis is about being alone in space (awesome little game, by the way), Elite is about much more.

We don't know exactly what will change on gamma and release, so I'm not saying the game will be a flop, but it isn't fair to say that everything's ok; if beta 3 was the full game, I'd be hugely disappointed. I got my fingers crossed for gamma though.

Happen to agree. I also want a feeling of immersion, especially with friends, (oh wait, can't find them due to instancing issues), the network code in particular worries me but, like most on here, fingers crossed it will be sorted. Understanding that this is a BETA before anyone says anything, I find the repetitive nature of things atm to be , well, repetitive. If this is what we're supposed to be testing then great, i'll happily continue with that, but please, can we have some life in the game as well? Atm ED feels like i'm getting up and going to work every day, over and over and that's not going to be a good feeling if this is all there is for release day. Let's hope not anyway.

 

[atxferret]

Yea i hear you, i should not get drawn in to yet another pointless debate.

Think ill go earn some credits and set up my stream, funny how outside of the official forums everyone i talk to is wildly excited and optimistic about Elite...Same old same old i suppose.

Don't bother trying to get a further rise out me, i'm out.

ps, mods shut this this thread we all know where it will end

LOL, I can promise that getting a rise out of you, specifically, was neither a goal nor a concern.

 

[Sacman]

We're getting a smoother (hopefully) version of exactly what we're playing, and have been playing for a few months now.

Yes ... we will get a more stable Beta 3, thats it.

 

[Reject]

All of these things that the devs have promised...have you guys not played any other video games? Things are always promised. Grand, spectacular, game changing and defining things. Those things don't happen, though, if the initial game doesn't draw in a significant number of buyers. And this game needs a lot of help before it's going to draw in much of anyone that hasn't already paid for it.

I'm afraid this is the gist of it. I totally agree and I doubt many of the early potential buyers from the initial marketing after release will buy into it. Cause what it seems to be at the moment boils down to this: "We're selling this shell of a game atm. You you pay us X amount of pounds for it now, but just you wait for about half a year up to a year, and we'll have some really juicy content for you then, which you can buy for an additional sum...".

If you said "Ok, this is Beta, wait for the content", then it's a whole other story. However, most sane consumers don't buy a final release of a game only to be told to wait another year for the actual content...

In any case...tomorrow is friday - *hopefully* FD, and perhaps even Mr Braben himself, will clear up some of the questionmarks that the community is having. If not, then I'd be even more worried...

 

[Vandaahl]

I like that you spelled it "irrelephant" with the bouncing elephant avatar. That's either a hilarious typo, or fairly brilliant.

It's either early in the morning or you have little sense of irony

"Anything unrelated to elephants is irrelephant!"

- The original shirt's slogan

"Yo, man! Let's go to the elephant exhibit! This sh*t right 'ere is irrelephant! ROFL GET IT"
"Oh, shut the h*ll up.."
- Two friends at the zoo

 

[Commander Mick]

It appears to me that all these posts like " i can haul, trade, mine, pirate, hunt, explore, but i cant scratch my balls" are written by one person. could be the star citizen agent.

I can do all and that as well!

 

[Lestat]

You know instead of complaining why not wait and see when gamma released.

 

[Iskariot]

So I've probably put about 20-30 hours into the game now, and I'm still having trouble...well, I'm having trouble locating the game, to be honest. I'm bored! etc. etc. etc..

It is very simple atxferret. Not every game suits everybody.
If you are already bored after a measly 30 hours, which I cannot even begin to comprehend, then it is safe to say that you should move on to something else. This game is made for a certain kind of gamer that obviously is not you. There are a lot of other more suitable games out there. Go for it.

Please, tell me I'm missing something here, because otherwise, I don't think I've ever been more disappointed in a game in which I had such high hopes.

What you are missing is not something that you missed in the game. You are simply a different kind of gamer that is incompatible with this type of 'tell you own narrative' type of game. It happens.


By the way... you know this is still beta, don't you? And you know about the features that are going to be implemented in the near future?

 

[atxferret]

It's really wild to me how many of you think that there is going to be this huge influx of content either at or soon after release.

Did you miss the part where this is the beta, and release is in a month? That means that anything that we're not testing right now is either going to be untested, or a long ways away, well after the devs are apparently expecting quite a few people to pay for the game. If you're really thinking that there's some hidden part of the game that will pop into existence in 33 days, who do you think is testing it? Do you think there's a second, super-secret beta team out there testing the REAL game?

Yeah right.

Even if we are lucky enough to get a significant amount of content at launch, it's going to be buggy as all hell since we're the freaking beta testers and we don't even know about it.

 

[Ref Minor]

Sorry you wasted your money OP, still if everyone liked the same things life would be very dull. Thank God Frontier didn't make ED to appeal to everyone, pleasing no one. They made a specific game, some of us like what they are doing, others not, both are correct.

As others have said, move on, try something different, come back in a while to see if you get it.

 

[Dr Zachary Smith]

Even if we are lucky enough to get a significant amount of content at launch, it's going to be buggy as all hell since we're the freaking beta testers and we don't even know about it.

This thought had crossed my mind :S

 

[Erna Jedermann]

I also wish people would stop trying to convince others that there's nothing wrong. You have to ask yourself, in its current condition, do you really think that this game could possibly be reviewed well at all, except by people that really, really want a very repetitive space-flight sim that essentially doesn't even have missions, back story, or any details at all about the surroundings? Do you think anyone but they current backers are going to be interested in something this simplistic, that is, at the same time, so difficult to learn? And do you really think you're going to get any of the promised content if no one buys the game?

All of these things that the devs have promised...have you guys not played any other video games? Things are always promised. Grand, spectacular, game changing and defining things. Those things don't happen, though, if the initial game doesn't draw in a significant number of buyers. And this game needs a lot of help before it's going to draw in much of anyone that hasn't already paid for it.

For me there is something wrong:

Why this Open Multiplayer ....??? For me that the reason why we have this Supercruise which I really don´t like.
I for example didn´t need that...Group Play with RL Friends will be a nice to have, but to gone to places where no Man has gone before is for me enough.
I really enjoy to Cross a Triple Starsystems to get this Last Star ... o another error which I don´t like ... Stars/Belts shown in System Map but you can´t navigate too until you really discover it...My Opionion in System Map only shown where you can navigate. If you dicover something then add to System Map like if you discover Planets .... thats only one example.....you see it not all Golden in ED, but I really like each minute when I play even in Beta, and if they don´t make it worste in Gamma/Release them I am found my Game for Live.... but thats me !