Make it so that H4 players see Nerf darts and water pistols instead of bullets and lasers
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Unfortunately it is, for all intents and purposes, a weekend now, and that plays out in favour of the thread reaching 50 pages first.
Or maybe just no one at FDev realized why Odyssey owners might want to run Horizons 4.0.
For all we know (which is not much), it is entirely possible that the launcher can, in fact, accommodate more product slots, but the authentication servers have not been updated to offer EDH4 to Odyssey owners, because see above.
Either way, FDev so far has had a good record of behaving reasonably after having their mistakes pointed out clearly and politely by the community, so I do expect this particular issue to be solved either in the next week or in the week after that. (You do not mess with infrastructure as critical as authentication servers/clients just before a weekend, unless you have a very good reason to do so, and this is not one.)
More importantly, the launcher appears to pass some kind of server authentication token to the executable, and that probably precludes any solution that completely bypasses the launcher. (The command line copy trick involves copying the token from an instance of the executable already started via the launcher.)
I'm not familiar with the details, but there is apparently a third party minimal launcher that can also do this. IIRC, it's on github.
Yes! Please match the Steam discount on the Frontier Store - it will encourage folks that want to instance with Odyssey players to upgrade and end the silly arguments.
With existing issues with Odyssey players not being able to play with friends who don't have Odyssey already, I was really hoping this would fix that, but it feels like FDev really are trying to tank Elite right now with these weird decisions. They must have had to go extra lengths to give Horizons players H4.0 but specifically exclude anyone with Odyssey on their account, even though we can still access H3.8. This wasn't a mistake, it was a concious decision.
This makes me worried for the future of Elite that even with the small management shakeup recently that nothing has really changed with the mindset of the Management at FDev. The Azumith saga showed that ground floor staff can come up with the content, but then management's petty decisions like this overshadow it when they should be rebuilding goodwill right now.
I want to be wrong but I can't see how this was a mistake.
This makes me worried for the future of Elite that even with the small management shakeup recently that nothing has really changed with the mindset of the Management at FDev. The Azumith saga showed that ground floor staff can come up with the content, but then management's petty decisions like this overshadow it when they should be rebuilding goodwill right now.
I want to be wrong but I can't see how this was a mistake.
It's already here, they matched the Steam discounts
That's already been announced.
Double yay! Sorry I missed that announcement. Upgrading my new commander now.
Thanks for setting me straight.
I don't believe any mistake was made. Odyssey players who are enjoying Odyssey and want to play with friends should encourage their friends to upgrade. It's really cheap right now, and the fact that they can run 4.0 means Odyssey will run on their hardware (it's the same thing for goodness sake).
It makes no sense to allow Odyssey players access to Horizons 4, since they already have it! It would be a very poor business decision to give Odyssey players the means to backtrack and instance with players who got this code base for free, because this would discourage any upgrades.
Ok, first of all, a correction (and update) for my setup:
- Ryzen 9 5900X
- 32 GB of RAM
- Sapphire Toxic Radeon RX 6900 XT
Grabbed the Mamba and took a jaunt through a HazRes - from the looks of it, a rocky ring. Looking still good - nice graphic effects from the Cytos, but I need to get used to the percentage display for the shields. Got some reprojection artefacts on the left HUD when I tried to select my carrier (still doesn't work when you have filtered out carriers...), and flickering shadow edges on my ship when leaving the ring (IIRC already reported a long time ago).
I think I'll stick to H4.0.
Ah right, this launcher. Looks like they reverse engineered the authentication process… interesting.
No going to lengths needed, it is likely just a line or two not added to a configuration file. As for what reason FDev had to do (or rather, not do) that, it is anyone’s guess.
It is also a poor business decision to do stuff that is bound to generate bad reviews, as several people in this thread pointed out.
Doomed?
yea, that was my point - it's a key/authorization thing, something easy to implement, which they already implemented in Horizons / Base Game combination like 6-7 years ago
And i really dont think it's a Launcher issue here...
No, doesn't work, the launcher is still aware your own Odyssey and gives that as an install option.
Maybe relogin after switching of DLC?
It's not going to work. The launcher checks what the associated frontier account owns and will show either Odyssey or Horizons 4.0. If Odyssey isn't installed it will still show "Odyssey" but with an install button instead of play.
All working well now to upgrade to Odessey.
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So it is a demo?