Winter DLC Speculation

How?

What's the functional difference between a flying bird and a bat? What makes birds so special?
I should have put that in a better way. Its not that birds are more special, it's just due to their diversity they have different requirements. The size of the WT exhibits would seem to large for some birds and to small for others. What if you don't want a walkthrough enclosure (i.e. large raptors). What if you want the traversalable area to be round and not rectangular. Also it would be would to have birds fall in the exhibit animal tab. It would make more sense to either be in there own tab or be in the the habitat animal tab, which I think is more likely.
 
Okay, Let's suppose a rather unlikely situation:
An animal pack for winter DLC. 8 animals, 1 normal exhibit animal, 1 walkthrough exhibit animal, so in the end 6 habitat animals, which is one less than before.
Would you buy it?
 
Okay, Let's suppose a rather unlikely situation:
An animal pack for winter DLC. 8 animals, 1 normal exhibit animal, 1 walkthrough exhibit animal, so in the end 6 habitat animals, which is one less than before.
Would you buy it?
I'd buy it, but I wouldn't be thrilled about it unless the habitat animals were perfect.
 
be in there own tab or be in the the habitat animal tab, which I think is more likely.
It is, by definition, not more likely - we have one flying animal in the game, and that is our precedent.

The only realistic expectation for other flying animals (aka birds) is that they will follow the same pattern. Therefore it is more likely that, just like the bat, they will fall under the exhibit animal heading.
 
Walk-in exhibitions have opened up a completely new dimension in my opinion. In addition to birds, it can be home to sloths and tamarins, for example. After all, tamarins are pretty tiny, this would be a great solution for them.

I was thinking that if it's winter DLC and a bird, it must clearly be a snowy owl.

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(I know, not very creative, sorry guys. I have a phobia of birds. I mean really, in reality.)
 
Okay, Let's suppose a rather unlikely situation:
An animal pack for winter DLC. 8 animals, 1 normal exhibit animal, 1 walkthrough exhibit animal, so in the end 6 habitat animals, which is one less than before.
Would you buy it?

This situation is probably not as unlikely as you think. More likely than a pack for example with 9 walkthrough exhibit flying birds that some believe is coming. The only change may be 2 walkthroughs instead of the exhibit animal.

The only thing that I am 'more-sure than anything' in relation to this pack is that it will be seasonal. Wetlands - spring is traditionally very wet especially in the UK, Conservation Pack has a summery vibe, and the twilight pack is Halloween/ Autumn themed. Winter is not being left out, so expect animals that don't mind the chilly air.
 
This situation is probably not as unlikely as you think. More likely than a pack for example with 9 walkthrough exhibit flying birds that some believe is coming. The only change may be 2 walkthroughs instead of the exhibit animal.

The only thing that I am 'more-sure than anything' in relation to this pack is that it will be seasonal. Wetlands - spring is traditionally very wet especially in the UK, Conservation Pack has a summery vibe, and the twilight pack is Halloween/ Autumn themed. Winter is not being left out, so expect animals that don't mind the chilly air.
If we should get ONE winter walkthrough exhibit this screams for the Snowy Owl in my opinion. Since Harry Potter it is surely the most known owl species and they are clearly a Winter species.
 
Okay, Let's suppose a rather unlikely situation:
An animal pack for winter DLC. 8 animals, 1 normal exhibit animal, 1 walkthrough exhibit animal, so in the end 6 habitat animals, which is one less than before.
Would you buy it?
If WT exhibit is meant to include most flying birds, I would prefer even a DLC with just 4 habitat animals and 2-3 WT exhibit animals and 1-2 classic exhibit animals. We need so much more reptiles, invertebrates and small flying critters.
 
For me a perfect and realistic pack would have 16 birds and would be called "Aviary Expansion Pack", because we already have JWE2 dominion expansion. I know jwe2 is not the same as PZ, but you understood me

Aviary Expansion Pack
-Take flight into the air with the new aviary expansion pack! Bring to your zoos 18 feathery friends with new flight behaviours implemented with the Egyptian Fruit Bat, and 3 terrestrial birds very requested by the community. Introducing new aviary modules, with 5 sizes (Small,Medium,Medium-Large,Large,Huge),10 forms (Rectangular, cubic, triangular, spherical, Dome, London zoo-like, septogonal, Octogonal, 9 sides and customizable) With various textures (Mesh,glass, ropes, metal, null). Bring to this new aviary and habitats 18 new animals! Some of them will be in both habitat and aviary. Almost every animal in the game will be able to be in an aviary.

Habitat:
-Emu
-North Island Brown Kiwi
-Secretary Bird

Aviary:
-Blue And Golden Macaw
-Bald Eagle
-Bengal Eagle Owl
-Harris Hawk
-Great White Pelican (able to be outside the aviary but can´t fly)
-Rhinoceros Hornbill
-Toco Tucan
-Mallard (able to be outside the aviary but can´t fly)
-Sulphur-Crested Cockatoo
-Atlantic Puffin (Special aquatic Aviary)
-Scarlet Ibis
-Griffon Vulture
-Rainbow Lorikeet
-African Gray Parrot
-Bali Myna

I would add 5 more small birds like the lovebird, sun conure, cockatiel and blue-fronted amazon, but knowing frontier it would be something like this
And no exotic ducks, just mallard, there is not a single zoo in this entire world without them, i can assure u
This sounds like a perfect pack to me, just add the Puffins and I would pay 15€ instead of 10€ for it
 
I think people are forgetting that birds don't fly in captivity. Unless it's HUGE to them, they just stand around and hop from branch to branch. There's a WE at the Houston Zoo, so big it has a tree inside, and I don't see the birds darting from here to there. I only see them hanging out in 1 spot or flying from A to B, and back (like a loop🤣). Honestly, I think the size is perfect for most birds and bats, but if we get bigger/smaller species, then having alternate sizes (and shapes) would be fantastic
 
If we do get birds - and I think this is likely - I just hope the exhibit doesn’t have to be walk through and also that the path can be moved so it is not right through the middle.
exhibits are already possible to not be walkthrough unless of course you mean actually remove the path
 
There are 3 birds that are my most desired if an Avian pack comes to the game:

-Kakapo-
i want this even more than the kiwi, the living dodo cousin, one of the most endangered birds of the world: the Owl Parrot, also known as the kakapo. In a exhibit of this new bat type sounds perfect to me, but even more perfect counting that is a parrot and can´t fly, so it can be both in habitat and aviary. My second most desired bird and animal in the game

-Blue and Golden Macaw-
Do i need to give explanations of why this is the best bird for Planet Zoo? Ok. The classic one. There is not a zoo without macaws, they are too iconical to leave them out. This animal is like the Penguin, california sea lion, jaguar and kangaroo, extremely necessary animals that if the game don´t have is not the same. The macaws in general are beautiful, but this is the classic one together with the scarlet. My most favourite bird.

-Atlantic Puffin-
A new aquatic-exhibit type with underwater viewing with the loop animations to the deepdive sounds like a idilical site for this magnificient bird. If this bird gets its site in this game, i will be very happy. This little boi is the keystone with the penguins and polar bears for an arctic zone.

-Toco tucan-
A very curious bird coming from the South Americas. A unique bird, such beautiful as the macaw and a very necessary South American representation if aviaries are coming to Planet Zoo

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I think people are forgetting that birds don't fly in captivity. Unless it's HUGE to them, they just stand around and hop from branch to branch. There's a WE at the Houston Zoo, so big it has a tree inside, and I don't see the birds darting from here to there. I only see them hanging out in 1 spot or flying from A to B, and back (like a loop🤣). Honestly, I think the size is perfect for most birds and bats, but if we get bigger/smaller species, then having alternate sizes (and shapes) would be fantastic
Can confirm this. I share my home with a fully flighted parrot. He walks on the ground and will fly only if -

1. You bribe him (and it has to be a good bribe. At least a full almond)
2. You physically throw him into the air
3. It's a life or death situation (usually this means a truck went by outside and made a loud noise)
 
Can confirm this. I share my home with a fully flighted parrot. He walks on the ground and will fly only if -

1. You bribe him (and it has to be a good bribe. At least a full almond)
2. You physically throw him into the air
3. It's a life or death situation (usually this means a truck went by outside and made a loud noise)
It's true, I mean flying around for a long time in IRL would be highly energy consuming, so the most logical way possible for Frontiers to implement birds would be just looping flights on entities within a particular section or otherwise perching/sitting still and or hopping on perches in a WT exhibit.

That said, I'd expect to see macaws or raptors for a bare minimum of implementing birds in the future.

Edit: correction flying birds
 
-Kakapo-
i want this even more than the kiwi, the living dodo cousin, one of the most endangered birds of the world: the Owl Parrot, also known as the kakapo. In a exhibit of this new bat type sounds perfect to me, but even more perfect counting that is a parrot and can´t fly, so it can be both in habitat and aviary. My second most desired bird and animal in the game
Well, there are several things wrong here.

You say the exhibit sounds perfect for the kakapo, but they don't exist in captivity so there's no such thing as 'perfect' for them. It's been determined after several years of research that kakapo should not be held in zoo collections; captive breeding is a finnicky business and there are simply too few kakapo to take the risk.

I can appreciate that you've seen a couple of memes about this bird but I'd encourage everyone to do a little bit of research into them. There are so few of them that all the wild kakapo have names. If they're ever kept in captivity, which is extremely unlikely, they will never be exported outside of New Zealand either. They are not tourist attractions; you won't get to see them in real life unless you have good reason.

And before anyone says it, yes, the game would be a half-decent medium through which to educate people on this bird, but frankly if it came at the expense of far more iconic NZ animals that are actually kept in captivity (internationally, too - namely the kiwi, the tuatara, and the kea) I'd throw you all off a bridge.
 
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