I did recognise that point.
Maybe you should read my last two sentences again, where I concede some players (the usual pewpew crowd, no doubt) are getting what they want (again)
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Maybe you should read my last two sentences again, where I concede some players (the usual pewpew crowd, no doubt) are getting what they want (again)
Think something like this external view:
https://youtu.be/-JdS8-9BH3w?t=1192
But with the ability to move the external camera around and aim your turret that way.
QUESTION: How long does it take to initiate the telepresence onto someone else's ship? A timer would perhaps prevent the combat logging exploit opportunity.
I must say that the choice to cancel all crimes committed while on someone's ship for exchange of no profit just invites exploiting and sounds a bit ridiculous. "I'm sorry Officer, yes, we've destroyed 15 civilian ships today and 10 wanted ones. Tell you what. Just forget the bounty for those wanted guys and let me go, OK? Do we have a deal?" -- "Yes sir, your record is clean now and you're free to go." -- "Nice one, thanks, Officer! Alright guys! Let's jump onto my ship now and do the same! We can now cause problems with no consequences! Long live the unpunished crimes!"
This is just silly.
Also - another update for combat players, while traders just have to keep hauling the fish...
Its kind of sad , consequences are optional in elite
Hear, hear. +1
That does not require space legs at all. Read between the lines with it is said 'physical' - means a kind of permanent locality relative to your friends ship so that you can be transported but are restricted to the permissions the main CMDR gives you. If you feel bored - no problem, eject to a pod and call the Rescue Rats or suicide and wake up in the port of origin. You could also board another ship with your SRV as you do with your own. And that feature could perfectly co-exist with a telepresence version in which your "body" doesn't ever leave the station.
Uhm, well.. I got VR for the immursion in Elite and now Elite is taking immursion away bit by bit. This time by galaxy-wide teleportation. Would be better to join crew as one of the NPC onboard.
This^^^
Besides that, wasn't the motivation for excluding a normal external camera the unfair advantage a player could have over others in combat?
Now multicrew is getting just that when using turrets, how typical.
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Not that I give a flying monkeys rear end about multi play, but the thing that gets me is with the now instant travel thing into peoples ships, again I dont care about that, if it save people time who am I to say they shouldn't time is precious to us all, but its the oh I'm at Sag A.
A Anybody "mate you want to see the Black Hole here?"
Mate "yeah why not"
Pooof mate is in seat next to A Anybody...Sort of kills a lot of the game.
A Anybody "mate you want to see the Black Hole here?"
Mate "yeah why not"
Pooof mate is in seat next to A Anybody...Sort of kills a lot of the game.
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We "immersion" people should have a voice also. I'd personally love it if there was an "immersion" slider for gameplay ... slide one way for teleportation and other 'game-like' features and slide the other way for more 'simulation-like' features. I don't think my desire for an immersive experience should trump your desire to just play the game. Unfortunately there isn't so the devs have to choose one over the other.
Owner of ship doesn't escape bounties or crimes committed by his/her ship. Considering player remembers which of the crew put others at risk he will just not play with that commander again.
I think any explanation will do but gameplay wise it works because it is limited presence, with very specific role you fill at ship. If they gonna introduce boarding and will allow telepresence with it, then we might have reasonable discussion of big issues there.
Your ship doesn't get transfered here, just your virtual avatar. As long you don't do something physical or interact it doesn't ruin my 'immurshan'.
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Submit, boost, 4 pips to systems, high wake out. It's not hard.
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If there is to be no NPC Multicrew then I think at the very least they could in fact add our hired Co-Pilot in a seat. Surely we can now hire more than 1 NPC Crewe?
Surely all combinations of Player & NPC Crewe go towards SLF & SRV.
It really should be our own choice to allow passing over Helm as we do for NPC Crewe already.
Surely all combinations of Player & NPC Crewe go towards SLF & SRV.
It really should be our own choice to allow passing over Helm as we do for NPC Crewe already.
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I recall reading one of those Official Statements from long ago, where non-human multicrew was also discussed. Something about these being some manner of automated device that could be activated or deactivated or sold at stations and would require upkeep to maintain. Is this still something in the works, or are those of us without multiple reliable biological entities at our disposal doomed to singular sub-par performance?
And lets not ignore that elite was funded and promoted with the promise of immersion
From what I see in the Crew Lounge, we can hire as many as 4 crew persons, we just can only use one at a time, for now.
No way! Then they would have access to an escape pod!
Or this...
QUESTION: How long does it take to initiate the telepresence onto someone else's ship? A timer would perhaps prevent the combat logging exploit opportunity.
I must say that the choice to cancel all crimes committed while on someone's ship for exchange of no profit just invites exploiting and sounds a bit ridiculous. "I'm sorry Officer, yes, we've destroyed 25 civilian ships today most of which were brand new pilots bringing crap for that community goal, and didn't bother with any wanted ones...they might have fought back. Tell you what. I know you don't owe me any bounties, so just go ahead and let me go, OK? Do we have a deal?" -- "Yes sir, your record is clean now and you're free to go." -- "Nice one, thanks, Officer! Alright guys! Let's jump onto my ship now and do the same! We can now cause problems with no consequences! Long live the unpunished crimes!"
This is just silly.
Also - another update for combat players, while traders just have to keep hauling the fish...