4 RESKIN animal META-WISHLIST!

yoav_r · Dec 10, 2021

WHAT? ANOTHER WISHLIST???

Yes! and for god reason

Inspired by the meta wishlist by @random goat , I noticed that when the black-and-white ruffed lemur was added to the game, it only had 3 votes, despite a lot of people wanting it in the game for a long time. What I think happened, is that it being a reskin caused people to not 'waste' a vote on it, desite wanting it. So this list is forth e next anniversary reskin animal, with limited options for realistic representation.,

This could help us see which animals are most required from the 'reskin' bunch.

I will later sum up the animals in a list like the meta-wishlist.

The rules:

Everyone gets 4 votes, and 2 extra votes for animals based on DLCs.
Must be from the list below
More reskins can be sugessted and I'd add them to the options list.
The animals must be reskins, similar animals that do require major model changes won't be included. (e.g. Dromedary and Bactrian camels, while similar, would not be reskins of each other)
- Rule of thumb: whether the model is rhe same or only minorly different from the reskin (like the B&WR lemur's added beard, but other than that the model is the same as the RR lemur)
You can vote reskins based on DLC animals in your 2 extra votes, and they will be in a seperate list. The reasoning for that being that dlc animals are much less likely to come for free in an anniversary.

From the base game:

Arabian oryx (Gemsbok)
Asian lion (West african lion)
Asian water monitor (Nile monitor)
Brazilian tapir (Baird's tapir)
Brown bear subspecies - eurasian/syrian (Himalayan brown bear)
Carribean flamingo (Greater flamingo)
Coyote (Timber wolf)
Dorcas gazelle (Springbok)
Drill (Mandrill)
Gray wolf subspecies (Timber wolf)
Greater Rhea (Common ostrich)
Green peafowl (Indian peafowl)
Grevy's zebra (Plains zebra)
Masai giraffe (Reticulated giraffe)
Nile crocodile (Saltwater crocodile)
Somali ostrich (Common ostrich)
South american tapir (Baird's tapir)
Striped Hyena (Spotted hyena)
Sumatran tiger (Bengal tiger)
Sumatran orangutan (Bornean orangutan)
Wisent (American bison)

From DLCS:

Bighorn sheep (Dall sheep)
Bobcat (Eurasian lynx)
Emperor penguin (King penguin)
Eurasian beaver (American beaver)
Gray kangaroo (Red kangaroo)
Harbor seal (Grey seal)
Harp seal (Grey seal)
Humboldt penguin (African penguin)
Iberian lynx (Eurasian lynx)
Mouflon (Dall sheep)
Nubian ibex (Alpine ibex)
Persian fallow deer (European fallow deer)
Spectacled caiman (Cuvier's dwarf caiman)
Tufted capuchin (COmolbian white-faced capuchin)
Vicunia (Llama)

The lists:

Animal	Votes
Masai giraffe	14
American flamingo	11
Arabian oryx	10
Nile crocodile	8
Grevy's zebra	7
Striped hyena	7
Greater rhea	6
Green Peafowl	6
Wisent	6
Eurasian brown bear	5
Asiatic lion	4
Sumatran tiger	4
Wolf (Eurasian 1, Iberian 2, Red 1)	4
Asian water monitor	2
Barbary ape	2
Brazilian tapir	2
Coyote	2
Gaur	2
Perentie	2
Somali wild donkey	2
Roan Antelope	1
Sitatunga	1
Sumatran orangutan	1

Animal	Votes
Bighorn sheep	11
Harbor seal	8
Vicuna	7
Eastern grey Kangaroo	4
Iberian lynx	4
Black rhinoceros	2
Black wallaroo	2
Bobcat	2
Canadian lynx	2
Harp seal	2
Mouflon	2
Nubian ibex	2
Banded mongoose	1
Brown capuchin	1
Emperor penguin	1
Ethiopian wolf	1
Humboldt penguin	1
Iberiab ibex	1
Sika deer	1
Tufted capuchin	1

The list will be updated once a week.

Aramar · Dec 10, 2021

Iberian lynx
European bison
Eurasian brown bear
If possible, my 4th option is the red fox (from the arctic fox). If not possible, then the Nile crocodile

yoav_r · Dec 10, 2021

Aramar said:
Iberian lynx

European bison

Eurasian brown bear

If possible, my 4th option is the red fox (from the arctic fox). If not possible, then the Nile crocodile

Looking at the Red Fox, it seems to have entirely different body propostions from the arctic and fennec foxes, so for now I won't allow it.

Markiz · Dec 10, 2021

Well I wouldn't consider Striped Hyena, Wisent and Iberian Lynx to be reskins,

Other than that my reskin list would be :

1. Eurasian Brown Bear
2. Grevy's Zebra
3. Bighorn Sheep, ( If Mouflon was on the list then it would be the choice)
4. Harbor Seal

yoav_r · Dec 10, 2021

Aramar said:
Iberian lynx

European bison

Eurasian brown bear

If possible, my 4th option is the red fox (from the arctic fox). If not possible, then the Nile crocodile

Markiz said:
Well I wouldn't consider Striped Hyena, Wisent and Iberian Lynx to be reskins,

Other than that my reskin list would be :

1. Eurasian Brown Bear
2. Grevy's Zebra
3. Bighorn Sheep, ( If Mouflon was on the list then it would be the choice)
4. Harbor Seal

I changed the rules for dlc-based reskins to be in 2 dedicated votes, as I've been convinced they are much less likely in a free update. you can add 2 voted to yours.

Aramar · Dec 10, 2021

yoav_r said:
I changed the rules for dlc-based reskins to be in 2 dedicated votes, as I've been convinced they are much less likely in a free update. you can add 2 voted to yours.

My updated list then:

European bison
Eurasian brown bear
Nile crocodile
Caribbean flamingo
Iberian lynx
Harbor seal

yoav_r · Dec 10, 2021

Markiz said:
Well I wouldn't consider Striped Hyena, Wisent and Iberian Lynx to be reskins,

Other than that my reskin list would be :

1. Eurasian Brown Bear
2. Grevy's Zebra
3. Bighorn Sheep, ( If Mouflon was on the list then it would be the choice)
4. Harbor Seal

Mouflon added to the list!

Markiz · Dec 10, 2021

Neat, so uodated list:

1. Eurasian Brown Bear
2. Grevy's Zebra
3. Asian Water Monitor
4. Masai Giraffe
5. Harbor Seal
6. Mouflon

Alexjh · Dec 10, 2021

Main Game:
1. Asiatic Lion (for West African Lion)
2. Perentie (for Nile Monitor)
3. Green Peafowl (for Indian Peafowl)
4. Grevy's Zebra (for Plains Zebra)
For DLC
5. Eastern Grey Kangaroo (for Red Kangaroo)
6. Ocelot (for Clouded Leopard)

SalamAnders · Dec 10, 2021

This is a fun idea! And I will return later with my list. This is of course partly a matter of opinion, what is a ''reskin'' and what isn't and I imagine we will see some discussions about it here. Debate is often a good thing, I just wanted to prepare you for it. In the end, it is your initiative so you should have the final word here, but I hope you are open to suggestions.

So here comes a bit of feedback already.

yoav_r said:
Vicuna (Llama)

Should probably be changed to the guanaco, since the llama is the domesticated version of that. Unless you want to cover them both, but then you might as well go ahead and include the alpaca.

I'm a bit on edge with the seals. While their bodies are very similar their heads especially the snouts are very different between the species.

jcp011c · Dec 10, 2021

1. Bighorn Sheep
2. Masai Giraffe
3. Nile crocodile
4. Wisent

to consider if the American Black Bear could come from the Formosan Black Bear and the Harp Seal from the Grey Seal, if so please don’t count the Nile crocodile and Wisent in my vote. Thanks! And also the Grey Kangaroo from the Red (maybe i should just do this over lol)

Pentoleaf · Dec 10, 2021

American black bear
Masai giraffe
Indian green peafowl
Scimitar horned oryx

DLCs
Canadian lynx
Richardson's ground squirrel

Mjmannella · Dec 10, 2021

To be honest the criteria for what qualifies as a "reskin" is rather subjective. I'd personally redefine a "reskin" as any animal whose genus already exists in the game. This would be much more quantifiable, leading to high-quality survey data.

avietar · Dec 10, 2021

1. Wisent
2. Eurasian brown bear
3. Arabian oryx
4. Striped hyena

5. Mouflon
6. Bighorn sheep

The wisent and Eurasian brown bear are never going to be added to a DLC because they are so incredibly similar to the American bison and existing brown bears in the game, but both wisents and brown bears are the largest megafauna in Europe with an important conservation message, and they are centerpieces of European nature.

The Arabian oryx and striped hyena would do a lot to flesh out the neglected Middle Eastern region in the game.

Mouflons are a beautiful wild sheep species unique to Europe and overlooked by most people (only 1 vote in the meta animal wishlist!).
Bighorns are a North American wild sheep species and would be a nice counterpart to dall sheep, because they are desert dwelling instead of tundra dwelling.

yoav_r · Dec 10, 2021

jcp011c said:
1. Bighorn Sheep
2. Masai Giraffe
3. Nile crocodile
4. Wisent

to consider if the American Black Bear could come from the Formosan Black Bear and the Harp Seal from the Grey Seal, if so please don’t count the Nile crocodile and Wisent in my vote. Thanks! And also the Grey Kangaroo from the Red (maybe i should just do this over lol)

Pentoleaf said:
American black bear
Masai giraffe
Indian green peafowl
Scimitar horned oryx

DLCs
Canadian lynx
Richardson's ground squirrel

The 3 missing bear species (americsn black, spectscled and sloth) are deliberately not on the list as they are very morphologically different than the already existing bears.

Mjmannella said:
To be honest the criteria for what qualifies as a "reskin" is rather subjective. I'd personally redefine a "reskin" as any animal whose genus already exists in the game. This would be much more quantifiable, leading to high-quality survey data.

Interesting suggestions, I was trying to go by in-game model, as taxonomy can get weird.

yoav_r · Dec 10, 2021

Alexjh said:
Main Game:
1. Asiatic Lion (for West African Lion)
2. Perentie (for Nile Monitor)
3. Green Peafowl (for Indian Peafowl)
4. Grevy's Zebra (for Plains Zebra)
For DLC
5. Eastern Grey Kangaroo (for Red Kangaroo)
6. Ocelot (for Clouded Leopard)

Asiatic lion, grey kangaroo added to the potential list! The ocelot and perentie are too different to get in.

jcp011c · Dec 10, 2021

yoav_r said:
The 3 missing bear species (americsn black, spectscled and sloth) are deliberately not on the list as they are very morphologically different than the already existing bears.

Interesting suggestions, I was trying to go by in-game model, as taxonomy can get weird.

Thanks! I wondered about that myself but thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

So assuming harp seal from grey seal and grey kangaroo from red kangaroo are okay I guess my top 4 would be:

Grey Kangaroo
Bighorn Sheep
Harp Seal
Masai Giraffe

sorry! You've got the other two if the Harp Seal/Grey Kangaroo don't qualify though.

yoav_r · Dec 10, 2021

jcp011c said:
Thanks! I wondered about that myself but thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

So assuming harp seal from grey seal and grey kangaroo from red kangaroo are okay I guess my top 4 would be:

Grey Kangaroo
Bighorn Sheep
Harp Seal
Masai Giraffe

sorry! You've got the other two if the Harp Seal/Grey Kangaroo don't qualify though.

Harp seal and gray kangaroo added!

jcp011c · Dec 10, 2021

yoav_r said:
Harp seal and gray kangaroo added!

Thank you! I just need those Harp seal bebbies! I know the grey seals look almost the same, but there's that extra level of cuteness

Thank you btw for doing this list. I think these are good animals that would be easier for frontier to do, that often get looked over in the main lists because they are so similar to what we already have. But honestly would love to have two different giraffes and kangaroos, so that not every zoo starts to look the same, species wise. Variety is awesome!

yoav_r · Dec 10, 2021

Mjmannella said:
To be honest the criteria for what qualifies as a "reskin" is rather subjective. I'd personally redefine a "reskin" as any animal whose genus already exists in the game. This would be much more quantifiable, leading to high-quality survey data.

The problem with genus is that it can be all over the place. The grey kangaroo and Red kangaroo for example are not even in the same family, despite converging to nearly the same morpholigical bodies, while the lion and leopard are in the same genus despite massive morphological differences and changes in lifestyle.

Heck the three-toed sloth and two-toed sloth are thought to have split over 20 million years ago, despite converging to nearly the same body types.