Because the devs have shown favoritism on occasion. Not saying it was them this time - seems the guy who gave the original tip-off based on "intuition" was kicked out of Canonn some time ago for looking inside game files. So it would seem that's probably what it was in this case as well. But I can't blame anyone for thinking the devs tipped someone off - especially with it happening so soon after FX17 and with a narrative timeline to adhere to, but no proper tools to find the things in-game yet.Or someone naughty looked inside the game files to get the information in the way that it's not supposed to be obtained. Also known a cheating.
Why blame the developer straight away?
You can find the coordinates for a point in space given four distances to other known points that aren't all on the same plane (trilateration). Due to the implementation of the galaxy in ED you often only need three (three normally gives two candidate sets of coordinates but because coordinates in ED fall on a grid with 1/32 Ly resolution you can often eliminate a candidate). This is how we did mapping of the galaxy before the log files included coordinates.No unfortunately the sky box cop out is just that.
You need 6 fixed points in space in order to find something in three dimensions. You also have to know the distances involved or the relative position of the origin. None of that was provided.
The only way it could be represented in ED is if you fly way outside of the system to get the clearest view with no light interference. Then they would have to give the players a 360 degree field of view in order to find those 6 points. You would also need to know how bright their points of references should be based upon distances. of which I know FDEV has said is not accurate. Since that is the case, then in that 360 degree view the person would have to select a star and get the distance to said star for each of the 6 points. Otherwise it doesnt work.
Using the stars to navigate the ocean works because the earth is a known point in space. The origin and destination is always on the same relative plane. That is not the case with astro navigation. Hence why its not a viable or believable way to find anything in space using a 2D flat video of stars. So as soon as you hear someone say that to you, then you can pretty much guarantee they are trying to deceive you.
Same dude who found the scout found the planet with the base?
Sounds like someone at FD is feeding him info. Nice job.
In *this* particular case, I don't believe that is true. I'm pretty sure it was looking into the files, as the guy that had the initial "intuition" was reportedly kicked out of Canonn for digging thru the gamefiles.That is a baseless accusation that I would suggest you reconsider.
I agree, it's not really a "scandal" per se. But it is kind of taking a dump on the rest of your playerbase.Not to be a buzzkill here but why were we ever supposed to assume impartiality in the first place? They're not the Supreme Court they're a videogame company telling a story about flying saucers being eaten by mushrooms. If every accusation leveled at them were true, how big of a deal would it actually be? Incidentally that's why I'm not particularly skittish about assuming that some of these accusations *are* true; because if it turns out that someone at Frontier told a YouTube streamer or a player group leader about where to find a cool thing in their game, well yes it's certainly kinda lame and fully appropriate to Call Shenanigans, but is even really a scandal?
True. Unless they had a narrative currently happening that they were trying to move along in a timely manner...Having had to sign a pile of NDA's thicker than a phone book(almost) to be allowed in to frontier towers, those NDA's being binding even after what I was shown is out in the open, and knowing how seriously Fdev take keeping things secret I fail to see the motivation in leaking that info by frontier, they don't gain anything by doing so and whoever did it would no doubt be in trouble.
Occam's razor would point somewhere else other than Frontier having a leak.
On my phone so can't get the links. But part of the suspicions here is one of the guys who found INRA said in the original thread that he only found the base, and CJ found the planet. But then on reddit his story changed. And he claimed CJ was only helping. It's just weird.In *this* particular case, I don't believe that is true. I'm pretty sure it was looking into the files, as the guy that had the initial "intuition" was reportedly kicked out of Canonn for digging thru the gamefiles.
That being said, FDEV have shown instances of favoritism before, so it's not a totally unreasonable assumption.
I actually agree with this. I get that there can only be one "first", but it leaves the entire rest of your playerbase twiddling their thumbs and watching on Youtube. I get that there are challenges to making narrative tailored to every individual in a MMO like this, but SWTOR managed to pull it off, and I think FDEV is capable of something better than what we have now.OP: Yes, its like FD are saying, Mission successful - somebody found it!
But from our (the players) point of view, the chances of being that somebody are astronomical.
I appreciate not everybody can "rescue the princess" but while FD may love it, reading about somebody else's success in Galnet doesn't really do it for me - it needs to be more personal - for me at least.
Ok, kicked my kid off minecraft.On my phone so can't get the links. But part of the suspicions here is one of the guys who found INRA said in the original thread that he only found the base, and CJ found the planet. But then on reddit his story changed. And he claimed CJ was only helping. It's just weird.
Yeah, these posts truly explain this situation huh?Ok, kicked my kid off minecraft.
Here's his statement on the forums here:
And on reddit:
lol basically. I just wanted to know if there were clues we were missing, number stations, encrypted news reports. Something, anything. And all we got from these guys was silence from one, contradictory statements from the others and a lot of talk about fan fiction and blah blah blah.Yeah, these posts truly explain this situation huh?
There's certainly something fishy about it. I still don't believe FDEV would leak the info to anyone.Ok, kicked my kid off minecraft.
Here's his statement on the forums here:
And on reddit:
This is why we're suspicious. Isn't adding up. I dunno.
Yes, if there is something fishy (cannot read reddit at work, and not really feel like passing judgement)There's certainly something fishy about it. I still don't believe FDEV would leak the info to anyone.