A Guide to Minor Factions and the Background Sim
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this is correct.
i'm just asking whether the faction got into boom or was in boom before today. as you can see in the first post of this thread there is a state hierachy. boom, lockdown, civil unrest are on the same level - they can't break each other, but they block each other. so if they were in boom, civil unrest or lockdown can't go active, till boom ends. if they got boom pending t the same tick, with civil unrest and lockdown, as all these states have a countdown of 1, the boom was going from pending to active (as its bucket was filled most, probably).
Booms can keep going for quite a while if players keep doing the right type of missions.
A faction will only ever get one state at a time. The only exception to this is Investment. This can happen at the same time as any other state - even expansion.
A faction will only ever get one state at a time. The only exception to this is Investment. This can happen at the same time as any other state - even expansion.
Actually, this makes complete sense to me.
Both states are pending. Pending, depending on which state we're talking about, takes a number of days. To cut an undesired active state short before it runs it's natural course, you start a conflict. That means, equalize somewhere or engineer a coup with your faction in any system you're present in, then wait 3 more days for the conflict to go active. Whatever state is active when a conflict starts, will be cleared.
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Are passenger missions borked right now? Tried to do a test using passenger missions exclusively, seemed to register ZERO impact, in fact 6 high influence passenger mission couldn't counteract 250K worth of bounties turned in. It just seems like they are not working.
BTW, BGS'ers...
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the interesting question would be here: how many bounty redeems ... and how many superpower bounty redeems in a system with how many superpower alligned factions.
let us assume your high influence missions would, as high influence missions, add 5 points into the influence bucket - that's 30 action points in total in total.
let us assume, each superpower bounty redeem adds 2 points into the influence bucket, you have 5 superpower bounty redeems (50 k each), and 4 superpower aligned minor factions in system - that's 40 "action points" in total.
total influence bucket size would 170 points, and your faction at 40% influence having run 6 high influence missions would have gained
40 + 30 /170 = 41,1%
, before even taken any loss via other factions gaining from superpowers into account, and without even looking at that 2 of those superpower factions would gain most probably low numbers, which will look like stagnation.
above demonstrates the problem of multiplying single actions (superpower redeems) with the number of superpower factions in system, as it is diminuishing any other effort in system.
the other option is, that passenger missions are borked, but that would require a no-bounty redeem or at least no superpower aligned minor factions present in system to test.
Last night I shifted to straight passenger missions rather than the passenger-bounty combo I had been using, and well it worked fine. Not much else to say.
Assuming they're like other missions, beyond 3 (only tested in low pop, all ++ missions) from one player the effect sharply diminishes.
Tested 3 missions one day in 12mil/no traffic and got 3.6% total. 4, the next day, gave all of 3.8%. Tested again with 5, 4.1%. That's around 1/9th effect for the missions beyond 3. Sharp indeed.
I guess the enhanced bounty effect would have still been in place for your test, so I'd suggest another try.
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Hey Goemon and others. Question please.
"Factions
• Reverted 2.3's increase in faction influence from redeeming bounty vouchers"
Does this statement from FD on the new patch mean they are reverting back to pre 2.3 or reverting the superpower bounty influence to pre 2.3?
Because reverting to me means going back so what are they going back to?
ta
"Factions
• Reverted 2.3's increase in faction influence from redeeming bounty vouchers"
Does this statement from FD on the new patch mean they are reverting back to pre 2.3 or reverting the superpower bounty influence to pre 2.3?
Because reverting to me means going back so what are they going back to?
ta
I read it as leaving the change to the distribution of superpower bounties, but at the old amounts rather than the newer buffed ones.
We'll have some more stable confirmation with tomorrw's tic, but I read it as just the Bounty influence levels, not changing the Supwerpower effect.
I think Adam Waite confirmed they were just reverting the influence boost from bounties. Superpower distribution, all other 2.3 changes to remain in effect for now.
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A wingmate pointed out that it was theorized passenger missions have no effect when a faction is in Election. We are, but in a different system.
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Actually it was 25k in bounties, not 250k, with very light traffic. I find it hard to believe that 6 +++ missions couldn't override 25k in bounties. Not only negated it, but influence was down
A wingmate pointed out that it was theorized passenger missions have no effect when a faction is in Election. We are, but in a different system.
My faction was also in a state of election in its 4th system, doing Passenger missions yielded no results in during it.
Seems to obey the similar conflict rules where Wars will prevent missions from gaining influence, leaving only Bounties to shore up other systems during those.
During the Election I went to Trade and regular Missions to pull up influence.
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Yes that does seem quite unlikely. Just tested a superpower bounty of 260k in the very tiniest emptiest system, and the effect was only 4% across the two aligned factions (with the previous enhanced effect). And quite right, I haven't tested during election. Another test for the list.
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Is there anyone who can keep tabs on the influence levels in Cartoq while the current bountyhunting CG is running?
Hrm, its not a bad idea. I could, but I won't be tracking anything more than just basic influence there.
Going to need to get system data and such tho... never been out that way before.
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Will cover the current states, there is an Election going on with two of the Federation factions.
I know the bounties will not help their influence at all, so it will be interesting to see.
Going to need to get system data and such tho... never been out that way before.
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Will cover the current states, there is an Election going on with two of the Federation factions.
I know the bounties will not help their influence at all, so it will be interesting to see.
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