Without digging too deep into your scenario, that's indeed what I think happened. When you get into multiple systems like your faction, state priorities and management is one of the most confusing parts. Especially when expansion is the lowest priority out of all the states. Good luck out there. [up]So in short the pending election blocked our war and at the same time we triggered a lockdown. Bad Timing...
Yes, that's even better than our guess. Thanks.
A Guide to Minor Factions and the Background Sim
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Yeah it's not our faction but one we want to fight against. But earlier it expanded to a lot of systems because it was alone in a system.
So now we track it's other systems too, that should solve our problems.
So now we track it's other systems too, that should solve our problems.
This is an Extraction system and everybody except Agriculture sells Biowaste - it's very difficult to sell at a profit.
Ahhh, I understand now. Makes total sense. Sounds like once you get the election resolved and out of recovery, you'll get the conflict you want.Yeah it's not our faction but one we want to fight against. But earlier it expanded to a lot of systems because it was alone in a system.
So now we track it's other systems too, that should solve our problems.
In a tiny population system, this isn't unusual. Biggest drop I had in the early days in my last experiment was about 15%
That trading thing is interesting. I've just started work on another small pop system, I'll try it *in aid of seeing if I get similar results*. I'd argue this is a pretty significant bug if it's the case, and either:
- standard trading isn't affecting systems the way it should; or
- this is unintended, and should be fixed to match with standard trading.
UPDATE:
(100 x 1t biowaste)
10 Mar 16 - 20k popn
Faction A - 12% (1m in bounties, 2-3% worth of missions),
Faction B - 11%
Faction C - 11%
Faction D - 6%
Faction E - 57% (100 x 1t biowaste sold at a loss)
Stuff it. Going a multi-pronged approach, have sold and bought for profit and loss 1t at a time at a variety of distinct and separate locations. All my notes on influence, population and what is sold where is on the back of an envelope at the moment. I'll update after the next tick.
EDIT: Oh, flagrant cross-post, but it's relevant. Go check out the poll I made here about minor faction control: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=237647
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Don't know if this is news to anyone, but I just found out that 15% is the magic number for winning a War.
If during lockdown activities have no effect, Can anyone explain why Shu Jinga Ltd went up in this example when in lockdown?
Not important for the current activities, but it was pointed out and asked, so worth putting out there.
Not important for the current activities, but it was pointed out and asked, so worth putting out there.
probably, because other minor factions insystem (which are not in lockdown) LOST influence, so influence was given to shu jinga ltd - for exampel, you went bounty hunting, and killed more wanted ships of other factions than of shu jinga.
That catches a lot of people out who think its the same 5% as cw and election.
Its been mentioned a few times in the thread but probably gets lost in all the posts.
Yep, def one figure that you don't wanna forget!
Sorry I am not good at presenting.
I should have also mentioned that we didn't do anything, positive or negative in that system after ending a war to release SDC for another war and if anything was being done against us it would only have been the raising of SDC.
It not only seemed a big increase one way towards a resistance (lockdown) but if it was just floating, why not towards the boom?
If during lockdown activities have no effect, Can anyone explain why Shu Jinga Ltd went up in this example when in lockdown?
My guess is - Somebody somewhere killed ships (or undertook other negative actions against) Rudakins US - 2% "nett" worth from the example shown. Which was then distributed amongst the remaining 4 MF's according to "the rules." However two of the 4 are at war and the other is in Bust, meaning they are locked out of the distribution. So the whole 2% all went to to the MF in Lockdown - interesting. I could be wrong though
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If during lockdown activities have no effect, Can anyone explain why Shu Jinga Ltd went up in this example when in lockdown?
My guess is - Somebody somewhere killed ships (or undertook other negative actions against) Rudakins US - 2% "nett" worth from the example shown. Which was then distributed amongst the remaining 4 MF's according to "the rules." However two of the 4 are at war and the other is in Bust, meaning they are locked out of the distribution. So the whole 2% all went to to the MF in Lockdown - interesting. I could be wrong though
the one in bust isn't locked out of the distribution; but basically i think that is the right way to look at it. somebody hurt influence of US and sdc, while other have been backing sdc, so that the total of sdc has been 0, and the total of US -2, while 2.1 were given to shu jinga because see above.
greetings
can we raise our influence with trading during pending elections ?
can we raise our influence with trading during pending elections ?
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How long after the Civil war goes live should CZ's appear?
Thanks
Thanks
In my experience they appear immediately. Finding them though is a different matter.
You have to be within 1000ly of a CZ for it to appear. They are located near an object (space station/planet/ star etc...) So check them all by flying within 1000lyrs and looking at the L/H nav panel list (make sure you have reset it to show everything). If no CZs appear then you have a bug.
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Thanks Rob.
We have had many eager pilots out looking in all modes for 2 hours now and no reports.
Pity!
Quick question about how you're buying items one at a time. Are you staying in the commodities screen and just selecting an item, incrementing to one and clicking buy or are you dropping all the way back to the systems services screen and then back to the trade screen.
I doubt it makes a difference but I'm curious from a data point perspective. I do wish they'd treat influence gains on a per/unit sold basis rather than a per/transaction basis so that selling 100T of X one at a time or all at once has exactly the same impact.