Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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So Thargoid leader sends UA's to merope etc to check on barnacles for re-arm and re-fuel.
Barnacles ready.....
Thargoid leader sends UP to Thargoid scouts and fighters on local ammonia worlds "PING" then points them to merope and surrounding areas to gather from barnacles.

Seems like the above is what has happened....could be wrong however if correct why? what is the next step? and is it for us or something else?
Maybe we arnt the target, maybe just maybe the Thargoids are going to help defend us from this so called "something far more dangerous than Thargoids" making its way from the rift direction.

I mean it is one of the first stops between us and the rift, why would targoids pinpoint merope first? why not witch head or cali also? Their capabilitys of their ships "If its an assault on humanity" wouldn't need to take a detour to merope would it? also they have been somewhat placid with us (apart from feds who are to anything they deem a treat).

My theory, mentioned many pages behind in this thread, is that all the UAs, UPS and barnacle appearances respond to a pattern indicating an slow assessment and preparation for an intervention *with* humanity. I will not say "against", as we don't know for sure.

Too Long, Don't Read summary:

The aliens have actively assessed our civilization with the UAs, UPs, and now directly. So, are they hostile? If the Barnacles are refuelling stations, does that mean that the aliens are also active in the California Nebula or Witch Head, for instance?
So, Investigate those nebulas.
Prepare for war, just in case.
To: Canonn Research Institute.
From: Lead scientist M. Volgrand.
Subject: Review on alien activity.


Following the timeline of the alien activity near and inside the human Bubble, it is possible to follow a clear trending and intention from an alien intelligence. This review will follow the events and changes in this activity and try to explain them.


The events occured in this order:


-Appearance of first alien artifacts in military convoys.
-Interaction with the UAs.
-Change of UA behavior. Location of "signal destination" in Merope.
-Finding of Alien Structures (also known as Large Barnacles).
-Appearance of Unknown Probes.
-Deciphering UPs leads to a location in COL 70.
-First alien encounter (hyperdictions).
-Alien ships interacting with the Alien Structures.




ASSUMPTION: All these events are not a matter of luck or blind luck, but the intentional steps to reach a certain objective.




1) The bulk search with UAs.


The first appearance of Unknown Artifacts was in military convoys, and back then it was extremely difficult to find any UA. At that stage, the UAs code, broken by the canonn scientists, did scan the closes stelar body and retransmit its name to an unknown receptor.


This was enough reason to consider: who is listening and what do they want? Although that question was looked in disregard, soon the Alien Artifacts changed their signal. They would then scan the closest ship, make a 3d diagram, and send it to an unknown receptor. The triangulation of the signal finally lead the Canonn to the Pleiades nebula.


PLAUSIBLE EXPLANATION:


The Unknown Artifacts seem to have acted as a sort of "scouting drone": They were scanning stellar bodies and sending transmitting their positions and names. So why did they change that behavior? The most likely explanation is "us": Having encountered signs of an alien interaction, the UAs proceeded to scan the humans that were interacting with them.


Think of it in a scientific way: If a certain activity delivers an unexpected result, more investigation is required. If there is someone monitoring the UAs (and I believe there is) they suddenly observed strange jumps of many light years on their artifacts, and new data was requested.


2) The indirect assessment.


The inteligence behind the UAs confirmed at this point that they were dealing with an space-faring civilization (the human race). Around Merope a "Ua shell" was stablished: Slowly over time, more and more Uas appeared in a growing circle around the pleiades nebula, until it reached the frontier systems of the human bubble.


By doing that, it is easy to assume that they will get a very accurate idea of the general area of space where we are located. And extremely cautious maneuver, always avoiding direct contact with the human race, for now.


3) The direct assessment.


Now that the alien inteligence knew where the humans were, it was time for a more direct approach. That's just a very vague hypothesis to explain the alien hyperdictions. The lack of data makes it impossible to actually assume what is the objective of those hyperdictions.






THE MISSING PIECE: Alien Barnacles


Over all this review, one that I made long time ago, a question always came to mind: how do the Alien Barnacles fit into this scheme of events? It was clear to me that the alien barnacles, alien ships, artifacts and probes were all from a common origin. The chances of finding a single alien race are of one against several billions, to find two would literally be a miracle. And to find two races that use this sort of bio technology simply defies any logic.


After the latests events this piece fell into place: The alien barnacles may be a sort of "refuelling" station.




SUMMARY AND QUESTIONS RAISED:


If the events linking the UAs, UPs, Barnacles and alien activity are due to a deliverate attempt to assess our civilization, new questions are raised.


1) Do the Alien Structures (barnacles) indicate a long-term campaign?


If the aliens do need the barnacles to refuel (which is still just a hypothesis), their presence may indicate the intention of a prolonged activity in the area.


If that's so, a new question raises:


2) Do the presence of Alien Structures indicate likely alien activity areas?


It is well known that the alien barnacles have been found in other nebulas, such as the California nebula or the Witch Head sector.


Why are they there? Are the alien ships acting in those zones as well? If so, why would them, if the human civilization is not active in those sectors, appart of a few explorers?


3) What is the final objective of the aliens? Are they hostile?


That is, probably, the most important question. One in which the safest bet is to assume: "they are probably hostile, but let's now initiate hostilities yet".




SUGGESTED INVESTIGATIONS AND ACTIONS:


Following this review, I request for initiating the following actions:


1) Do a full investigation of other nebulas where alien barnacles have been found.


The objective will be to answer two questions: Are the Aliens interacting with those barnacles as well? And, if they are, is there any reason in the sector that may explain the reason for their presence?

2) Collaborate with the independent engineers.


I do believe that the best action we can do now is to successfully scan the high wake signals the alien ships leave on their depart. This may lead to more answers.


3) Prepare for war.


We need to assume the worst possible outcome. My suggestion is to start recruiting more pilots into the Canonn Defence Force to ensure we are ready to face any incoming threat. At the same time, preparations should be made in order to assist the evacuation of civilians and equipment if it is needed.




I will be heading soon to the California Nebula to try to answer some of these questions. After that I will be joining again the Canonn Defence Forces.


I will inform of any findings, if any.


Commander M. Volgrand.
Canonn Institute's lead scientist.
 
Also this would mean the crashed vessel isnt missing any limbs and would show it as being oresian origin due to the older game statements about fewer leg joints

The leg joint thing originally came from The Dark Wheel when the protagonist encountered Oresrians walking round inside a space station and mistook them for Thargoids until he had the difference explained to him, so at that point it was definitely about them themselves rather than their ships. Don't know whether that's still canon or not though. Also nothing to say that a similar principle doesn't apply to their ships. Equally, nothing to say it does either.

Anyway, I had a good look at things when the encounters first started and concluded that the ships in the encounters were the same type of ship as the crashed ones. With regard to the missing pieces I concluded that they were either buried or had disintegrated on impact (some would have borne of the impact than others), for several reasons. Probably the most pertinent one though is that hull has attachment points for the full complement of wings/petals/limbs/tendrils/whatever that are seen on the ships from the encounters.

The discussion extended over a few posts but the main things are in the two linked to below. The first has a pictorial comparison, and the second covers various additional points that came up that weren't covered in the first post:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=4975806&viewfull=1#post4975806

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=4978405&viewfull=1#post4978405

Have a look and see what you think. Maybe you'll find evidence to suggest a different conclusion. There's pics there which might cover what you need.
 
The leg joint thing originally came from The Dark Wheel when the protagonist encountered Oresrians walking round inside a space station and mistook them for Thargoids until he had the difference explained to him, so at that point it was definitely about them themselves rather than their ships. Don't know whether that's still canon or not though. Also nothing to say that a similar principle doesn't apply to their ships. Equally, nothing to say it does either.

Anyway, I had a good look at things when the encounters first started and concluded that the ships in the encounters were the same type of ship as the crashed ones. With regard to the missing pieces I concluded that they were either buried or had disintegrated on impact (some would have borne of the impact than others), for several reasons. Probably the most pertinent one though is that hull has attachment points for the full complement of wings/petals/limbs/tendrils/whatever that are seen on the ships from the encounters.

The discussion extended over a few posts but the main things are in the two linked to below. The first has a pictorial comparison, and the second covers various additional points that came up that weren't covered in the first post:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=4975806&viewfull=1#post4975806

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...9-The-Canonn?p=4978405&viewfull=1#post4978405

Have a look and see what you think. Maybe you'll find evidence to suggest a different conclusion. There's pics there which might cover what you need.

Thanks :)
 
I think it has been rather obvious that the barnacles extract minerals/ore from the sub-surface and form the MA nodes. Why is the question and there are a fair few concepts here about that. The flower ships are withdrawing something from the barnacles and I don't see them/believe they are 'giving' anything to the barnacles. We think there will be underground structures, based on video evidence and it seems plausible to conclude they are alien...not committing to Thargoid... structures. But they probably are :) There are a lot of moving parts still to be defined.

I think it is just as likely that the barnacles could be 'mining' the sub-surface and growing underground, creating these structures. The MA's are a bi-product, and perhaps not just an unlikely beneficial entity, but an engineered one. What if the barnacles are actually a nursery... creating underground hives/incubators and the larger yellow-ish orbs that go up from them to the flower ships are eggs/young? Circumstantial evidence makes all of this, granted with many other concepts, plausible.

I think we'll find a lot of parts and pieces of various ideas come to be fact while not everything will fit. But Thargoid ships and barnacles are not just coincidentally connected.

Something that'd be really useful if anyone has them or is able to get them is high res shots of the cockpit before the extraction starts and after it's finished. It might give some indication of what's being extracted (or at least confirm that something has).
 
Not sure if it has already been speculated, but I've been bookmarking all of the Guardian ruins in the galaxy map, and there seems to be a massive "bubble" inside the Gaurdian bubble called the Regor Sector - it is permit locked and is smack bang in the middle of all discovered ruins so far...

Take it that it has already been thoerized that this sector being Permit Locked is the area where the Gaurdian's Homeworld would be?
 
Not sure if it has already been speculated, but I've been bookmarking all of the Guardian ruins in the galaxy map, and there seems to be a massive "bubble" inside the Gaurdian bubble called the Regor Sector - it is permit locked and is smack bang in the middle of all discovered ruins so far...

Take it that it has already been thoerized that this sector being Permit Locked is the area where the Gaurdian's Homeworld would be?

I've not seen it mentioned. Could be an interesting one to keep and eye on though! How close is it to the Col 70 sector though?
 
I've not seen it mentioned. Could be an interesting one to keep and eye on though! How close is it to the Col 70 sector though?

It's seperate from the Col 70 permit lock - it's literally right next to the Synuefe systems, Col 173 systems, and the Vela Dark Region stars - some HD X0000 systems inside the Regor Sector are also Permit Locked (caught in the permit lock crossfire I expect).

Quite literally a bubble with all found ruins so far going right around, up, and under it!
 
Not sure if it has already been speculated, but I've been bookmarking all of the Guardian ruins in the galaxy map, and there seems to be a massive "bubble" inside the Gaurdian bubble called the Regor Sector - it is permit locked and is smack bang in the middle of all discovered ruins so far...

Take it that it has already been thoerized that this sector being Permit Locked is the area where the Gaurdian's Homeworld would be?

If you go all the way back to thread 1 off the FP, you'll find the good Dr Arc's original posts included the Regor sector as one of the strange things he was looking to get answers to, as it's been permit locked since the year dot I believe ;)

Edit: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ryptic-hints?p=2160315&viewfull=1#post2160315

The post that started it all, entitled:

"Soontill Relics, the Regor Permit Sector and DB's cryptic hints"

So, yeah :)
 
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Not sure if it has already been speculated, but I've been bookmarking all of the Guardian ruins in the galaxy map, and there seems to be a massive "bubble" inside the Gaurdian bubble called the Regor Sector - it is permit locked and is smack bang in the middle of all discovered ruins so far...

Take it that it has already been thoerized that this sector being Permit Locked is the area where the Gaurdian's Homeworld would be?

As I can't find a list of all ruins systems, would you mind and please be so kind and post the list of the systems here ? Thank you very much in advance :) !
 
If you go all the way back to thread 1 off the FP, you'll find the good Dr Arc's original posts included the Regor sector as one of the strange things he was looking to get answers to, as it's been permit locked since the year dot I believe ;)

Edit: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ryptic-hints?p=2160315&viewfull=1#post2160315

The post that started it all, entitled:

"Soontill Relics, the Regor Permit Sector and DB's cryptic hints"

So, yeah :)

Heh. That stuff made me fly all the way to the bovomit sector just on a hunch. Explorer rank liked it though!
 
You should check the Front Page...

Thanks for the hint ! I also already found a list on Elite Wikia . Last few days I also felt like going to the ruins again, and collected the artifacts. I can't get the "descriptions" of the artifacts out of my mind that you get when marking them for sale in commodity markets. I don't have them by hand but will try to add the "descriptions" here this evening.
 
Heh. That stuff made me fly all the way to the bovomit sector just on a hunch. Explorer rank liked it though!

:D

I'm such a fraud! I didn't go there, I haven't been to a Guardian site yet, and I haven't even been to Sag A*! I've still managed 4% Pioneer, and I did take a year out, though...

All these things are on my list, and am considering using some explorer missions to force me to go to specific places. Now the Conda can do 45LY (not a great roll I know, but it's alright!) I will be spreading those wings a bit more - after unlocking a few more engineers :)
 
If you go all the way back to thread 1 off the FP, you'll find the good Dr Arc's original posts included the Regor sector as one of the strange things he was looking to get answers to, as it's been permit locked since the year dot I believe ;)

Edit: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ryptic-hints?p=2160315&viewfull=1#post2160315

The post that started it all, entitled:

"Soontill Relics, the Regor Permit Sector and DB's cryptic hints"

So, yeah :)

Fantabulous, thanks mate :)
 
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