Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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If this happens to be their homeoworld what we are seeing is not just the ruins of a civilisation: We have just uncovered a planetary catastrophe that ended all life on it!
Joining that with the knowledge that they managed to develop full AI sentience that is... scary, at best.

Ah, people always blame the AIs! Always seems like blame shifting to me! What do AIs need? - a sustainable power source. No need for food, air, water so why would there be conflict? Build a space station or something a little bit Dysony (only a very little bit though obvs, due to the whole 'if you could build it you wouldn't need it thing' with the proper ones!), that can be their home, and jobs a good un, everyone's happy, sorted. :)
 
Unfortunately I've not been able to play for a day or two because life has got in the way. However something I did wonder - could anyone who has been Hyperdicted check to see if COL 70 Sector is still locked for them (Specifically Col 70 Sector F7-N C21-3, where the UP is transmitting to)? I did wonder if the interaction with the Unknown Ship might somehow give access?

I am in Pleiades Sector RO-Q B5-0 Planet 4 -27.10 / 74.60 location checking the barnacle there (no apparent changes, no cracks in the ground as was reported at one other location) but I've been keeping a sharp eye (in the map) on the entire COL 70 Sector and it was still locked as of last night. I have plans to head to COL 69 Sector and just explore the area in order to be close to 70 if it should suddenly become unlocked. I thought it might be unlocked once the last patch was released but no such luck.

Edit: Sorry, just realized you asked the question to those who were interdicted. Hasn't happened to me yet, but the area I'm in is prone to that happening (yeah, I'm looking for a probe to happen) but I'll update you if/when it happens to me.

Does anyone know if FD needs to patch the game or just flip a switch to unlock them, or if a mission directed to explore those areas would do it?
 
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I can't scan the alien ruins. I try to do it by the map in the OP but it's too complicated. The active obelisks are not which are highlighted on the map and none of the combinations work. I always get the "Forgive my intrusion" message from Ram Tah. I've been trying for hours now, logging in and out to activate the obelisks. I'm full of scanning data but I can't complete any part of this mission. The map is too complicated as well since I have no way to overview the scene in-game. Running around in my SRV and no scan seems to be valid.
 
I can't scan the alien ruins. I try to do it by the map in the OP but it's too complicated. The active obelisks are not which are highlighted on the map and none of the combinations work. I always get the "Forgive my intrusion" message from Ram Tah. I've been trying for hours now, logging in and out to activate the obelisks. I'm full of scanning data but I can't complete any part of this mission. The map is too complicated as well since I have no way to overview the scene in-game. Running around in my SRV and no scan seems to be valid.

It takes a mixture of the Relics to activate the Right Results from scanning the ruins.
Orb+Relic in your cargohold then approach a Glowing Obelisk.

Once in range it activates at which point, you scan it with SRV scanner.

If the combination is correct you`ll get a Mail with a Guardians Log inside it.

If its not the right combo then Ram-Tah will tell you.

So try another combination.

The last 40 pages of this thread has Spreadsheets full of different combinations to try.

Also if you need a better view of the Map. Use the Developer Cam .. Default key is V for me
 
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This was my progress today, will finish it tomorrow. Hope it helps!

http://i.imgur.com/B38mkGj.png

http://i.imgur.com/B38mkGj.png

I didn't get any more data using a single object and carrying two of the same object. Berzergker got almost all combinations covered so we are running out of ideas in this ruins. So we have the following possibilities:

1. We need to find more ruins. Either on this planet or somewhere else, but we don't have any clues except maybe the north/south reference from one of the data packets.
2. The ruins somehow will change and more obelisks will become available. So far nothing hints at it.
3. Each object in the ruins has a unique ID and has to be used individually in combination with others. Unlikely as somebody else pointed out they stack.
4. Maybe the order in the cargo hold matters, meaning that Orb+Relic is not the same as Relic+Orb.
5. Ram Tah is scamming us.
6. Frontier hates us. j/k

Edit: Option 7 would be of course that we are missing something very obvious.
 
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OK, I've ground out the 12 log entries from the Ancient Ruins. Quick observations:
- Biggest concern: There's 15 obelisks, and only 12 log entries. Maybe we're missing something and not getting three of them...
- Totem (probably religious data?) isn't necessary for getting any of the 12 codex entries at these ruins.
- Two possibilities for where other ruin locations might be.
1. On the same planet. Given the "monoliths" (?) are a communication network, something in the site (maybe the relic towers? Or the obelisk layout?) can act as a compass to the other ruins (kinda like following power poles); or
2. The other ruins are at the Conflux/Rift/Gap, and we'll need to wait for them to be turned back on/discovered. I personally think this is most likely, as the codex entries specifically reference the 3 ark ships the Guardians built.
- The times you get no message from scanning an obelisk seem to be when you've already got that entry.

PS: In doing the above, took every combination of every item (except single items) to every obelisk.
e.g Orb + casket to obelisk 1-15, orb + tablet to obelisk 1-15, orb + urn obelisk 1-15, orb + totem obelisk 1-15, orb + relic obelisk 1-15
..... casket + tablet obelisk 1-15, casket + urn 1-15, etc etc.
 
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OK, I've ground out the 12 log entries from the Ancient Ruins. Quick observations:
- Biggest concern: There's 15 obelisks, and only 12 log entries. Maybe we're missing something and not getting three of them...
- Totem (probably religious data?) isn't necessary for getting any of the 12 codex entries at these ruins.
- Two possibilities for where other ruin locations might be.
1. On the same planet. Given the "monoliths" (?) are a communication network, something in the site (maybe the relic towers? Or the obelisk layout?) can act as a compass to the other ruins (kinda like following power poles); or
2. The other ruins are at the Conflux/Rift/Gap, and we'll need to wait for them to be turned back on/discovered. I personally think this is most likely, as the codex entries specifically reference the 3 ark ships the Guardians built.
- The times you get no message from scanning an obelisk seem to be when you've already got that entry.

PS: In doing the above, took every combination of every item (except single items) to every obelisk.
e.g Orb + casket to obelisk 1-15, orb + tablet to obelisk 1-15, orb + urn obelisk 1-15, orb + totem obelisk 1-15, orb + relic obelisk 1-15
..... casket + tablet obelisk 1-15, casket + urn 1-15, etc etc.
Hmm. So far I've unlocked just one data, items were Orb+Totem, pattern received was Alpha and the data was "Decoded Ancient Data Technology-research 7/20".

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BTW, has anyone gotten a single data nugget with just only item in SRV hold?
Ram Tah seems to suggest that some obelisks should yield their secterts with only one item...
 
Is it possible once someone has all possible entries from this site, the beacons come in to play, perhaps shooting off the covers provides a clue to the next site, or allows communication, or establishes a link to the next site?

The other thought was the beacons changes the memory state of the obelisks but i doubt this is the case as more data would have already been found.
 
So, people say they maxed 12M from the scans, and this sheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...13tODwHQdEnxLoVIj4ceGrpGQ8/edit#gid=340350432

also has only 12 parts of the information.

so there are 8-9 ruin sites it seems! or some of them are bigger than this one...
I maxed at 16 million, unfortunately guys, I was lapse in keeping track of what I was doing or using, I filled my asp explorer cargo hold with all the items I could find, then just went back and forth with the SRV swapping the items and randomly scanning the archives.
 
I maxed at 16 million, unfortunately guys, I was lapse in keeping track of what I was doing or using, I filled my asp explorer cargo hold with all the items I could find, then just went back and forth with the SRV swapping the items and randomly scanning the archives.
What pieces of info do you have that aren't in that spreadsheet?
 
I maxed at 16 million, unfortunately guys, I was lapse in keeping track of what I was doing or using, I filled my asp explorer cargo hold with all the items I could find, then just went back and forth with the SRV swapping the items and randomly scanning the archives.

Could you check the messages you got from Ram Tah and compare them with transcripts in this spreadsheet to see if you got any new parts?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ovrDiY9WZw4SXaSMe13tODwHQdEnxLoVIj4ceGrpGQ8/edit#gid=922357114
 
OK, I've ground out the 12 log entries from the Ancient Ruins. Quick observations:
- Biggest concern: There's 15 obelisks, and only 12 log entries. Maybe we're missing something and not getting three of them...
- Totem (probably religious data?) isn't necessary for getting any of the 12 codex entries at these ruins.
- Two possibilities for where other ruin locations might be.
1. On the same planet. Given the "monoliths" (?) are a communication network, something in the site (maybe the relic towers? Or the obelisk layout?) can act as a compass to the other ruins (kinda like following power poles); or
2. The other ruins are at the Conflux/Rift/Gap, and we'll need to wait for them to be turned back on/discovered. I personally think this is most likely, as the codex entries specifically reference the 3 ark ships the Guardians built.
- The times you get no message from scanning an obelisk seem to be when you've already got that entry.

PS: In doing the above, took every combination of every item (except single items) to every obelisk.
e.g Orb + casket to obelisk 1-15, orb + tablet to obelisk 1-15, orb + urn obelisk 1-15, orb + totem obelisk 1-15, orb + relic obelisk 1-15
..... casket + tablet obelisk 1-15, casket + urn 1-15, etc etc.

There are 13 not 12 ;)

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I maxed at 16 million, unfortunately guys, I was lapse in keeping track of what I was doing or using, I filled my asp explorer cargo hold with all the items I could find, then just went back and forth with the SRV swapping the items and randomly scanning the archives.

16??? So there are 3 messages unknown to us. Please share :)
 
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