Infact the only reason i posted today was that innocent new guy came in here and made a very reasonable post only to be set upon by the resident trolls and i felt like trying to balance things out a bit. Recently you bob and for a very long time others have been causing a bad atmosphere in threads about the FSS. They have dragged the entire forum down imo but this is what Fdev prefers rather than answer.
Allow use of pre 3.3 Advanced Discovery Scanner
- Thread starter ThatSmileyGuy
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There is no need to compromise. We can all have what we want. You do not see that & have been unable to provide any justification for your proposal to disable the FSS & mapping.
I think You have focused more on those You consider 'trolls' rather than those who posted legitimately good ideas.
There have been quite a few good posts regarding the subject of this thread.
If You claim to be fine with a compromise i'm very glad to hear it.
How would You see the balance / compromise then? I want to hear all sides.
Look in this thread alone. How long sinse i have bothered to post? You have been in here all that time. I have a better hobby, thats why you havnt seen me in here. How about you? Oh yeah you are exploring arnt you
Dang right, just found a system with four gas giants. Two of them in really close orbit with each other. Loads of planets three of which have geological formations.
I'll be here a while I like driving about on my first discoveries.
I posted a respectable reply and did not jump down their throat. I just had a different opinion. Are different opinions not allows in these threads?
Still waiting on my troll post examples?
If you can't find them, then the only person trolling is yourself.
I have already stated what I would find acceptable multiple times. Can't be bothered anymore.
Yes I have, multiple times. Just because you don't agree with that justification doesn't make it invalid.
Is who lying?
Post it again. You just don't like the old stuff, you have no good case to present that is not either pedantic or easily refuted. There is no justification for removing the old modules. There was, but that justification was removed during the beta yet the modules were removed anyway, needlessly and at players' expense.
Your entire argument is that it should be hard to reach the point where you can see what things look like rather than requiring effort to get the full data on a system.
Sure thing. It will be hard though to find it amidst many posts of people fighting with eachoter. We could use a moderator. Yet they don't seem to be anywhere around.
They don't need to justfy removing the old stuff. Its an upgrade of exploration mechanics so removal/replacement is to be expected. It didn't cost players anything, they were reimbursed space-cash.
Also that's not how the FSS works.
You are right that they don't need to justify removing them, they can just put them back in. Easy fix, no downside, everyone wins. There are a lot of questionable aspects to the 3.3 update that have not been addressed, personally I am only concerned about one of them and it is an easily fixed problem. It is only an issue at all because it is a change to the detriment of existing customers that has not been justified, and any change that adversely affects (even potentially) any customer needs a good reason (usually balance). No reason has been provided at all since the changes in beta, and I was surprised they were not added back in with the first patch. This thread is a proposal to put them back in because there is an ongoing demand for functionality not fulfilled by the post-3.3 game.
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That regarding the fact that people during beta wanted the system map reveal to still be in the game.
Yes, along with becoming a built-in feature of every ship. I can see why that was desirable, I want to be able to (continue to) do that in virgin & partially tagged systems.
They don't need to give a reason for replacing the placeholder in a widely appreciated upgrade. Most people were not baffled by it happening.
Leave the game if you don't like it.
Placeholders don't stay in the game for four years Stigbob, by the definition you adopt everything is a placeholder, which means nothing is and the label is useless.
The three modules just need to be added back into the game. Really there was no need to remove them in the first place, just as there was no need to remove the Cobra MkIII when the Cobra MkIV was added despite the Cobra MkIV having more cargo capacity. The Cobra MkIII is still in the game of course, that's the point. The MkIV is objectively superior in some ways but the MkIII still has a place in the game. So does the ADS (for me and others).
ETA you suggest I leave the game (I continue to play, I'm just not exploring for now) but berate others in this thread for doing just that.