Obviously lots of people, given the amount participating in the discussion here and on Reddit. Isn't it obvious? You obviously cared enough to comment...
PvP An Investigation Into Frontier's Actions on Combat Logging, Part 2
- Thread starter Rinzler o7o7o7
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Obviously lots of people, given the amount participating in the discussion here and on Reddit. Isn't it obvious? You obviously cared enough to comment...
It's upsetting when your mouse gets away, I guess.
Each encounter was a faked combat log to facilitate faking a support ticket, from a group with a history of faking reports of combat logging.
Rinzler o7o7o7
Banned
Interesting. How can you tell which 140 drives are exploited and which 140 drives are normally rolled?
Are my -59% heat rails and +46% distributor legit or exploited?
If I started shooting you with my 2x cannon 2x PA FAS with all matching projectile speeds and thermal load reductions, would you call me an exploiter or not?
And there are some out here, including myself who have seen hard evidence to support the opinion that FDev DID NOT GET THEM ALL!
As for the punitive action that "should" have been taken against these well proven cheaters...
Aside from a full on ban, which would never happen... Anything short of a complete progress WIPE of the offender's account would be a slap on the wrist in the eyes of the majority of the ED Community.
The offenders did not have their accounts wiped of all progress.
I would argue he'd log if he determines he cant win a fight in the first few minutes. Most of GG's posts are filled with toxic hyperbole and misinformation presented as facts.
Sure, but FDev has made it clear that they are not capable of 'zero tolerance'. There has to be solid evidence that there is clogging going on. 1 forced disconnect/month is not enough to prove there is a problem.
Redesign the experiment to find out what the limit is, repeat it a few times, then lets look at the complaint. All this shows is that FDev is doing what it said it would do....not run the risk of false positives.
Oh to add to the experiment, check the clogging of pve players by disconnecting during NPC fights, since this is also stated that it is cheating...then compare the two numbers and show that they are inherently biased.
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Rinzler o7o7o7
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Each encounter was a real combat log from an unknown and newly bought account to facilitate support tickets that Frontier asked us to send (they said to report any further incidents with additional tickets), from a group with a history of uncovering this inaction policy from frontier once before (they said they'd be taking action in the future).
If you have not done so, I would highly recommend reading the Reddit post from the first logging investigation we did.
They have stated they are looking at a 'history', not a once a month disconnect. All these guys have shown is that you can clog once a month with impunity...nothing new to see, moving on.
Repped.
Frontier needs to respond to this. They probably won't, but they need to.
Frontier needs to respond to this. They probably won't, but they need to.
Perhaps "manufactured" or "artificial" are more neutral and less inflammatory terms?
Why, this is working as intended! Once a month logging is indiscernible from internet issues in this game.
Your repping rep is reputable, so I repped it.
Sole Hunter
Banned
So glad I don't play this game anymore. They probably won't bother to give us an answer.
They weren't actually once a month, btw, that's just the average over time. First 3 were within a month, with the 2nd and 3rd logs taking place minutes apart. Logs 4 & 5 took place 5 days apart.
As part of the proposed Karma system, trends over time can be captured & more severed repercussions applied with more accuracy, yes. The proposal I linked to doesn't rely on that, it can be applied automatically to every ungraceful disconnect.
You are aware what you just did, right ?
You claimed the benefit of the doubt, the very same benefit a good portion of PvPers are more than willing to throw overboard when it comes to combat loggers.
FD can't prove an intentional combat log, no matter the amount of "evidence" and documentation thrown at them....and yes, that is a sad situation for PvPers.
It's one of the shortcomings of the game, and i'm afraid one that PvPers have to live with, just as the rest of us live with other shortcomings.
