An investigation into Frontier's actions on Combat Logging

Personally, with all the crap you've been spewing, promoting disrupting the game, breaking game and forum rules, insults, personal attacks etc. I'd ban you. Both from the forum and the game.

Apparently FD isn't enforcing the rules here either.

Never promoted disrupting the game in a way that it would break the TOS, disrupting the galaxy with legitimate gameplay mechanics is what we do, breaking the game how? server are still working, never promoted or said breaking the forum rules was okay, insults i guess it's also okay to insult me on my background. Maybe we should ban you? cry me a river, you more salty than the Wieliczka Salt Mine.
 
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I'm pointing out every poll on this forum, which represents the people who are truly committed to this game, has shown PVP to be the topic of least interest with the vast majority of players.

Do you have links to these polls? I'd be interested to see the playstyle representations, number of voters, etc.
 
If you're going to look at it this way, look at any company.

It's a sad century for consumers in that light. It's almost as if companies are trying to make a buck out of us by promising the world. This is not a Frontier issue, this is a consumerism issue. And since I like consuming I swallow it hook line and sinker myself.

Just this Monday I sat in a meeting where Marketing sold an application which I led the design off. While he was talking all I could think was: "That app can do that? Why didn't anyone tell me this? I need to remember this for next end of the year reviews, because some of my people are going to get a raise for introducing extra features while on a strict deadline. And a cut in salary for not telling me about it and risking that deadline". And did I go, "Excuse me Bjorn, but I think you'll find you're overselling some of the apps potential there"? Like hell. I smiled and nodded. And we got the contract.

Ziggy lied!

And if those customers aren't aware that we oversold our product, they were born yesterday.

Fact of the matter is, combat logging isn't high on Frontier's agenda, and for business purposes rightly so. If people think that this blurp in the media will have an impact, I really wish I was them. I'm far more cynical than that. People reading that will think the same thing I just outlined, because they too like being consumers. They line up each and every day to be severely knackered in the bum and will come back for more the next day. They may be talking a different talk, but if they'd walk that walk, capitalism as it exists today would be long gone.

Good post. People like being consumers? Smacks of that Burroughs quote and wanting junk. And wanting to crawl over broken glass for junk. Know of it?

I used to work in the media and before that, politics. Enough said. I can smell the . I don't blame FD for saying what they have to say. But I don't have to like it :)
 
Never promoted disrupting the game that would break the TOS, disrupting the galaxy with legitimate gameplay mechanics is what we do, breaking the game how? server are still working, insults i guess it's also okay to insult me on my background. Maybe we should ban you?

Hey, i'm still here 2 years later and still going strong.

Enjoy your fifteen minutes of fame. I hope it ends soon.

If you have the power to ban me please do so.
 
You can go as far back as when FD accidentally dumped 5 Bil cr into some accounts. There are tons of examples of FD destroying their own credibility through poor choices. Too numerous to document.

Combat logging? The punishment was to be shadow banning.

It's been obvious that they had no intention of actually doing anything long ago. The assumption was that there are just too many instances to police and enforce it. OP simply confirms what most long time players had already taken to be obvious.

Bottom Line: FD just considers "Shadow Ban" to be the same thing as OPEN mode.

That's why more and more players wake up after a bit and move to a large PG, and why it makes more and more sense for FD to just implement a PvE mode, which would alleviate the need for Mobius to have to admin such a large PG with no real tools to do so on that scale.

Apologies if any of this makes sense to anyone else.

Incoming expected as always...

Enjoy
 
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1)Find a Minnie FW corp
2)Do FW missions t1 style
3)???
4)profit.


You can do FW missions in a T1 Algos (or possibly two if you're both alpha... haven't tried anything like that in a while). That's all lowsec.

Minnie FW corp? Need to speak Russian for that. ;) Also I seem to recall drones got slapped with the nerf bat not too long ago.
 
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no bragging intended simply reitaring facts after being called a stone head after he made a baseless assumption on my background.

I didn't make an assumption on your background actually. I might have got your location wrong. I apologise for saying you were 'getting stoned' - I did not mean it as an insult at all. It was a fairly flippant remark. But your writing is rather erratic this evening. I thought you didn't care. Maybe you're faking outrage. Maybe not.

I'll say again - it's hard taking someone seriously when they take nothing seriously. Anyway, you're on ignore now, so fly safe Commander.
 
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Dear FD,

You really need to be professional and rein this in. It's an embarrassment for both you, as a company, and us as a community.

Close this cesspool thread, post an official statement (closed to comments) and update when and if you (FD) actually get done with whatever it is you're going or not going to do.

Someone at FD needs to get out in front of this and do some damage control. Right after you fire whoever let these CL tickets "slip". IMO, FD seems just slightly more professional than the people that orchestrated this debacle to start with, and that's just sloppy, unprofessional and unacceptable.

If by some miracle DB reads this I sure hope some heads role because as a player I'm embarrassed and as the head of a company I sure as hell would be.

[edit] Furthermore I'd say DB himself needs to address this as the people he's hired to do so have failed miserably. Stop the bleeding FD, right now you look like complete amateurs. Both in terms of the sloppy unacceptable handling of the CL issue and the failure to handle the mess you let happen after the fact. Some poison should not be left to run it's course.
 
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Do you have links to these polls? I'd be interested to see the playstyle representations, number of voters, etc.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/309909-I-Play-Elite-Dangerous-for
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/310223-PVE-Players-UNITE!-Do-you-want-an-Open-PVE-Mode
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/309217-Prioritys

Not to mention Frontier's own poll about ship tranfers where people voted to support a PVE roleplay element of waiting for your ship and paying a lot to move it over an instant gratification gameplay element of low cost instant ship transfers.
 
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Overjoyed to see everyone devouring our new content. Thanks to all involved with the OP (on both ends). Afterall, we couldn't have done it without all you loggers, too!

Signed,

CMDR Sun "FAO Lord" Dae
 
Overjoyed to see everyone devouring our new content. Thanks to all involved with the OP (on both ends). Afterall, we couldn't have done it without all you loggers, too!

Signed,

CMDR Sun "FAO Lord" Dae

Well, the loggers couldn't have done it without you to inspire them, Sundae! High-five all round!
 
Now the line has become that there was no intention to disrupt the game, allow me to draw attention to three posts from earlier in this thread:

The only people burning right now is Fdev for their inactions and lies. Combat logging will result in an increase after this post, a significant increase in reports and support will be overloaded.

That's on them, not us.
Looking at those two statements together, are you stating that this exercise was carried out with the deliberate goals of encouraging people to combat log (which I assume you consider cheating) and disrupting the ability of Frontier to provide support to its customers?
We want to force them to investigate properly, take the right actions and to enforce their rules against cheaters. They will most likely have no choice to reiterate their stance on combat logging due to their inaction on the matter.

To answer your question : Yes

From before this was made public, their intention was to disrupt an essential online service Frontier provides to customers. Not to mention encourage combat logging.
 
Well, the loggers couldn't have done it without you to inspire them, Sundae! High-five all round!

It really was a team effort, like a well oiled machine working in reciprocation. Just glad we can continue to serve this wonderful community!

Signed,

CMDR Sun "The Dank One" Dae
 
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/309909-I-Play-Elite-Dangerous-for
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/310223-PVE-Players-UNITE!-Do-you-want-an-Open-PVE-Mode
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/309217-Prioritys

Not to mention Frontier's own poll about ship tranfers where people voted to support a PVE roleplay element of waiting for your ship and paying a lot to move it over an instant gratification gameplay element of low cost instant ship transfers.

IS there a link by which he can check these people's profiles to decide whether they're worthy of voting or being listened to? That seems to be the level we're working at here
 
Now the line has become that there was no intention to disrupt the game, allow me to draw attention to three posts from earlier in this thread:





From before this was made public, their intention was to disrupt an essential online service Frontier provides to customers. Not to mention encourage combat logging.

No, i was very clear in my statement, i said the goal was to bring attention to the flaws in how they enforce their policies and how they take actions against cheaters (combat loggers), no where does it says our goal was to disrupt game services such as the customer support ticket system. Those two comments are two different context. I simply said this could : result in an increase in tickets or combat loggers, i am simply making an observation, i could be very wrong. For all we know, this could be very well be the other way around, they will do nothing and simply turn a blind eye on the problem. At this point, i have zero faith in their abilities to do anything in regards to combat loggers.

I'm really just here for the party to be honest.
 
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