The size of the PvP playerbase is irrelevant. If FD state in the T&C's that combat logging is considered an exploit and that action will be taken against offenders, then they need to take action against offenders. If they're not going to take action, then make that clear. That way, we all know where we stand and people who are buying the game for the PvP aspect of it can then make an informed decision rather than being suckered in by lies.
An investigation into Frontier's actions on Combat Logging
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The size of the PvP playerbase is irrelevant. If FD state in the T&C's that combat logging is considered an exploit and that action will be taken against offenders, then they need to take action against offenders. If they're not going to take action, then make that clear. That way, we all know where we stand and people who are buying the game for the PvP aspect of it can then make an informed decision rather than being suckered in by lies.
Either your photoshop skills need a lot more work, or you got scammed for your online marketing degree.
That's hilarious.
Ok, so you've gone back 30 odd pages to misinterpret something, to prove your soothsaying abilities. Let's look again shall we?
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Just taking advantage of the loops in the system, remember SDC is in the business of using clever game mechanics and playing on the thin line of the TOS. That's why SDC is a highly controversial group that catch the attention of many people. Taking advantage of the stupidy of the community is good way to get our message across. If you repeat the same propaganda over and over, eventually players will believe you and join your ranks.
Everything we do in SDC is done in such a way that we know what is going to happen, we know the results of our actions and what is to come.
"LOL.
Poor excuse. One message for you - gitgud at propaganda.
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I stand by what I said. Your excuses are poor. Your propaganda is poor. Ironically, the only useful thing you have done - this little 'experiment' on inaction over combat logging (aka breaking the rules without permission) - could and should result in the banning of your second accounts for flagrantly combat logging on purpose in my opinion. I mean, that's what you want enforced, right?
I didn't say in the post quoted you weren't right in your prediction. Or wrong. You can't connect the two.
You may well beat me in your PvP modded grief mobile. Fair dos. But chances are you won't out-pr me with clear antics. Not that I have to do anything - you lot dig your own holes time and time again. Anyone with half a brain can see it.
You're still no more important than anyone else. Fly safe, commander
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Yes. They didn't lie, they temporarily disregarded policy. We don't know why because again it's none of our business. If you believe though that Frontier Development should be shutdown you need to grow up. A company can do whatever it wants and it shouldn't have to change because some minor pansy group that cries.
Do you realize the PVP community is insignificant? You could all quit and this game would still have plenty of players as proven by polls showing the vast majority who see PVP as tertiary and unnecessary. And then there's Arena which proves that PVP is a nonstarter in Elite aside from the murder-hobos.
The Elite PVP community is insignificant and any investment to protect that community adds zero value to the vast majority of players who find other PVE activities much more enjoyable.
Yes murder-hoboing demonstrates integrity.
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Sole Hunter
Banned
was busy with university this morning, ya know didn't have much time to read 30 pages of rubbish nothing until i saw zac post.
Either your photoshop skills need a lot more work, or you got scammed for your online marketing degree.
I don't study marketing and my photoshop skills are rusty but you get the idea and that's what matter.
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Sole Hunter
Banned
I personally contacted pcgamer because i know someone that works for their editorial department.
Don't worry we also hate you, oh! the irony but we don't shout it out loud. oh wait.
I do however admire your neutrality, good on you.
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Yes, PC Gamer - the most trusted bastion of games journalism! Oh, that made me laugh. Go ahead, tell them. I want more articlulz from them to read.
If I were in charge here that'd be a lifetime ban for purposefully attempting to bring Frontier Developments into disrepute through a coordinated action. Customers like that aren't needed.
Sole Hunter
Banned
was it a good article? i mean millions read that lulzdrama on the interweb, must be good for elite right?
Find the section in the TOS that says i can't send emails to a gaming news site about stuff in a video game.
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If you want meaningful human interaction maybe you shouldn't be trying to blow them up?
I don't know, I have some decency...
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I personally don't give a crap if Frontier live or die. I just find badly-researched PC Gamer articles fun to read.
I posit that this is an impossibility.
Sole Hunter
Banned
That's hilarious.
Ok, so you've gone back 30 odd pages to misinterpret something, to prove your soothsaying abilities. Let's look again shall we?
...finding, one mo
...
(Source)
"
Just taking advantage of the loops in the system, remember SDC is in the business of using clever game mechanics and playing on the thin line of the TOS. That's why SDC is a highly controversial group that catch the attention of many people. Taking advantage of the stupidy of the community is good way to get our message across. If you repeat the same propaganda over and over, eventually players will believe you and join your ranks.
Everything we do in SDC is done in such a way that we know what is going to happen, we know the results of our actions and what is to come.
"LOL.
Poor excuse. One message for you - gitgud at propaganda.
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I stand by what I said. Your excuses are poor. Your propaganda is poor. Ironically, the only useful thing you have done - this little 'experiment' on inaction over combat logging (aka breaking the rules without permission) - could and should result in the banning of your second accounts for flagrantly combat logging on purpose in my opinion. I mean, that's what you want enforced, right?
I didn't say in the post quoted you weren't right in your prediction. Or wrong. You can't connect the two.
You may well beat me in your PvP modded grief mobile. Fair dos. But chances are you won't out-pr me with clear antics. Not that I have to do anything - you lot dig your own holes time and time again. Anyone with half a brain can see it.
You're still no more important than anyone else. Fly safe, commander
But yet, many people are talking about us and taking our side in this matter. Frontier even admitted their own faults, we made them kneel.
A true delicious victory.
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Good luck and all that with uni. Sincerely. But that doesn't go here.
Yep, it's clear that you don't study marketing.
Oh you must be so proud, 'look mummy, I potentially damaged the future earnings of a company and it's shareholders and a game people enjoy 'cos we couldn't think of a better way to address this issue than causing the most disruption we could'
Do not be surprised if your modus operandi of taking the paint off the skirting boards by throwing a grenade in the room comes back to bite you on the butt.
Honestly, I can't see them ever moving away from P2P. I doubt they would have the revenue to sustain it for any length of time, not to mention the development overhead that they just don't seem to have the necessary resources to swallow. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is and we're left dealing with all the associated pitfalls.
Javert
Volunteer Moderator
Shall I delete this entire thread then since the OP openly admits combat logging
Frankly, FD could have deleted the whole thread, and ignored the OP, since the "investigation" was also arguably abuse of the ticketing system. Fortunately, FD tend to take a context sensitive view of such discussions so there is no black or white "all posts mentioning that someone combat logged will be deleted" rule.
Conversely, unlike combat logging, naming and shaming is specifically called out as against the forum rules. Combat logging is against the game rules, but it is not against the forum rules to mention it.
Hahahahaha.
I kinda take your side, yes. But your motivation is the problem with me.
'Many' is a weasel word.
Frontier have kneeled? You put it in bold?
Do you know what a 'pyrrhic victory' is?
I think you're in a dorm stoned with your pals and you're having the biggest giraffe at all of us. I get it.
just don't ask us to take you seriously when you can't take anything else seriously, ok?
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My my, so many assumptions.
Firstly, I don't engage in murder. I've pirated people in the game, but they've all left the encounter intact albeit moderately lighter on cargo.
Secondly I don't want FD "shut down", I just want them to be honest with the playerbase.
Thirdly, the fact that you consider any group of people "insignificant" sends a very clear message about the kind of person you are. Not the kind of person I want any form of interaction with, on or offline.
Sole Hunter
Banned
We never denied that one of our 10 tenets is to disrupt the galaxy.