An investigation into Frontier's actions on Combat Logging
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The White Knights are delusional man. FD can do no wrong in their eyes. They will defend them blindly until the bitter end, when they help FD fly the game straight into the ground.
Ouch, hope my connection holds out
Rule #1: Don't fly what you can't afford to rebuy.
Did I miss something in my hypothetical? I'd welcome any correction.
This would make every time your game crash, your internet goes down, you suffer a power outage, etc, while playing result in a rebuy screen. Not quite workable, particularly for those that have flaky internet to start with (such as nearly everyone with rural internet).
Or those that have a stable but slow connection and family members that like watching Youtube/Netflix/etc.
content!!
I fear this pretty much rules out any Crime & Punishment changes - and the reduction in frequency of Combat Logging that would result - for update 2.3. A feature that has been necessary since 1.0. Therefore Piracy will remain a dead playstyle, as will Bounty Hunting Wanted CMDRs, and the newbie sector around Eravate will remain a Combat-Logging-griefers' paradise. This is disappointing... hopefully in 2.4 around June...
Cheers for the honest info anyway Brett, it's always appreciated
What did I say about OP not having the result you wanted?
In about a month maybe two Frontiers reaction to combat logging will be back to the way it was. Unpunished baring a few cases here and there. We still wont have a proper C&P system, Frontier will be quieter than ever, and the community will be a lot more bitter. Angry with each other, angry with Frontier.
Are you now beginning to see my point about why this post was so unhelpful?
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I think our dear Mr Sundae needs to learn some more networking
No I repped you.
It's awesome to think about. Any idea if there's a name for this problem?
ie two generals problem (which it isn't?)
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I think our dear Mr Sundae needs to learn some more networking
InfactIhave3PhDsInNetworkingandComputersInGeneralAndSpecific
Not just content - COMIC RELIEF content! The best one!
Ouch, hope my connection holds out
I am of the belief that the odds of your (or anyone's) connection -- which is probably fine 99.99% of the time -- going down in random window of time you are engaged in PvP (and losing the fight) because your ISP is failing you would amount to a rounding error, mathematically.
First time warning, second time in a short span of time: temporary ban.
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Regardless, if you choose to play a game with a mandatory online component, be prepared for the consequences of losing your connection. This is your responsibility, not anyone else's.
I think the core issue is the notion of trust, and whether Frontier should trust a given (SDC?) peer.
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Other video games that I've played where this has been an issue usually adopt the approach that the person who's connection craps out, for whatever reason, takes a loss and just has to suck it up. In the context of ED, I think the suggestion of your ship remaining in space for a fixed duration, say 90 seconds, would cure the problem immediately and people who combat log would be forced to formulate other, valid tactics to avoid destruction.
Yes, this will lead to rare occasions where peoples internet connections just happen to drop at an inopportune moment during a fight, but I think those rare occurences would be a small price to pay for the greater good of the game.
Given the state of the world and people being what they are these days, this rare and unavoidable "sacrifice" through no fault of the player will no doubt be seen as unacceptable (won't somebody think of the spaceships!) and there will be much protest and wailing and gnashing of teeth were it ever implemented.
The way I see it is that the needs of the many (and the game itself) outweighs the needs of the few (with dodgy connections), or the one. Unfortunately this philosophy doesn't seem to sit well with people in this day and age.
Thats how it is in every online game ever, poor connection is never a saving grace, its more like driving under influence.
When people re-log, ships should stay in the game for at least a minute
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Oh, I'm sorry about the tone of my reply then. I took your smiley the wrong way.
I'm not aware of a specific name for it, aside from "the trouble with P2P networking"
All the angry people in one thread..... it is like a little angry nest of bees.
I have no idea what you all do to get so worked up but whether it is hanging outside famous places in open and singing 'nah nah' at passing ferdelances, taking unshielded type 6 full of rares and no rebuy or sandpaper your own goolies... or from the other perspective, pulling wings off bees and cutting up learner drivers to make them panic then yelling that they shouldn't be allowed on the roads....
All I have to say is CALM DOWN a bit before you give yourselves heart attacks.
Dearie me.
I have no idea what you all do to get so worked up but whether it is hanging outside famous places in open and singing 'nah nah' at passing ferdelances, taking unshielded type 6 full of rares and no rebuy or sandpaper your own goolies... or from the other perspective, pulling wings off bees and cutting up learner drivers to make them panic then yelling that they shouldn't be allowed on the roads....
All I have to say is CALM DOWN a bit before you give yourselves heart attacks.
Dearie me.
I fear the situation is a little grimmer than that, it's FD's attitude at question here.
Sounds a lot like "shooting the messenger" though, and you can be pretty darn sure would be interpreted as such.
What you describe may be needed at times, but i'm very doubtful this would be such a time.