Another solution to ganker problem

[Ettanin]

Begone, lingering obnoxious criminal killer.

Just saying

 

[Northpin]

Or, if there are gankers at the AXCZ get in your combat-built FDL, wing up with others, and have a good time blowing them up.

If im in an ax cz, i'm there to do the ax cz stuff, not to entertain gankers.
So i will either ignore them, or block them

And if enough people block them, they will eventually get to get their own not-so-live open experience, followed by the mandatory cries for open only this and open only that.
and the loop will be, once again, complete

 

[Murky Dregs]

If im in an ax cz, i'm there to do the ax cz stuff, not to entertain gankers.
So i will either ignore them, or block them

And if enough people block them, they will eventually get to get their own not-so-live open experience, followed by the mandatory cries for open only this and open only that.
and the loop will be, once again, complete

Not really.

This is barely static in the PVP community.

You can also join some lawful PVP discords and put out an SOS; they'll be more than happy to take out some gankers.

 

[Northpin]

You can also join some lawful PVP discords and put out an SOS; they'll be more than happy to take out some gankers.

You are still kidding yourself

If i can evade the gankers, i dont need to pop on pvp discord. Why should i waste my time?
If i cannot, they'll destroy me before i can even pop on that pvp discord, so again, what's the point?

In both situations they made me waste my gaming time
So, as far as i'm concerned, as long the pvp is not tied with the game ojbectives and it's nothing more than a badly stitched layer over the pve core - it's a waste of time.

Not saying pvp events or even organic pvp between willing participants is not fun.
But for anyone that has absolutely no interest in pvp, any pvp interaction is a waste of time - and it doesnt even matter how that interaction concludes (me escaping or me getting the rebuy screen)

 

[TiberiusDuval]

You are still kidding yourself

If i can evade the gankers, i dont need to pop on pvp discord. Why should i waste my time?
If i cannot, they'll destroy me before i can even pop on that pvp discord, so again, what's the point?

In both situations they made me waste my gaming time
So, as far as i'm concerned, as long the pvp is not tied with the game ojbectives and it's nothing more than a badly stitched layer over the pve core - it's a waste of time.

Not saying pvp events or even organic pvp between willing participants is not fun.
But for anyone that has absolutely no interest in pvp, any pvp interaction is a waste of time - and it doesnt even matter how that interaction concludes (me escaping or me getting the rebuy screen)

Once I toyed with kind of thought about how to have mechanic that kind of allow and disallow PVP at same time. Lets say player has PVP toggle. At "On" position things work out as they work currently. At "Off position" aggressor is sent to separate instance and commander's ship is replaced by cloned NPC. Pixels go boom, ganker is happy (or not), non-interested in PVP player is happy. Agression defined by firing interdictor or weapon against commander.

 

[Tividar]

Once I toyed with kind of thought about how to have mechanic that kind of allow and disallow PVP at same time. Lets say player has PVP toggle. At "On" position things work out as they work currently. At "Off position" aggressor is sent to separate instance and commander's ship is replaced by cloned NPC. Pixels go boom, ganker is happy (or not), non-interested in PVP player is happy. Agression defined by firing interdictor or weapon against commander.

Post in thread 'How could players be encouraged to put themselves into dangerous pvp scenarios, even when they don't have to?'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...en-when-they-dont-have-to.585305/post-9500803

 

[Robert Maynard]

Killers are an intrinsic part of any community just as explorers, achievers & socialisers are.

So "intrinsic", in this game, that no-one needs to play with them, if they don't want to.

 

[Murky Dregs]

You are still kidding yourself

If i can evade the gankers, i dont need to pop on pvp discord. Why should i waste my time?
If i cannot, they'll destroy me before i can even pop on that pvp discord, so again, what's the point?

In both situations they made me waste my gaming time
So, as far as i'm concerned, as long the pvp is not tied with the game ojbectives and it's nothing more than a badly stitched layer over the pve core - it's a waste of time.

Not saying pvp events or even organic pvp between willing participants is not fun.
But for anyone that has absolutely no interest in pvp, any pvp interaction is a waste of time - and it doesnt even matter how that interaction concludes (me escaping or me getting the rebuy screen)

I'm not the one kidding myself.
One can equip, and train for open & PVP, or there are multiple game modes, private groups, etc.. etc.. etc..
Wirth all that at everyone's disposal; to come onto this forum and still complain about being on the losing end of PVP is patently ridiculous.

 

[Murky Dregs]

Once I toyed with kind of thought about how to have mechanic that kind of allow and disallow PVP at same time.

That's called Solo or PG's.

 

[Riverside]

So "intrinsic", in this game, that no-one needs to play with them, if they don't want to.

Here's the part immediately preceding the sentence you quoted:

if all the current ones methods (direct PvP) were banned or otherwise eliminated there will still be griefers & killers, just of a different kind.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Here's the part immediately preceding the sentence you quoted:

Any examples of what a "killer" who can't kill other players' avatars might manifest as?

 

[GJ51]

The title of this thread makes an unwarranted assumption

There is no ganker problem

 

[Riverside]

Any examples of what a "killer" who can't kill other players' avatars might manifest as?

Sure, a BGSer.

 

[Darrack]

This thread is about open, why are you here?

It takes no skill whatsoever to escape a gank when flying a transport ship.

Because sometimes i play in Open and we have freedom of speech here in blighty.
It takes even less skill to avoid NPC interdiction's in a transport ship

O7

 

[Darrack]

Not really.

This is barely static in the PVP community.

You can also join some lawful PVP discords and put out an SOS; they'll be more than happy to take out some gankers.

There is no PvP community, just gankers, otherwise CQC would be positively buoyant.
If you think attacking trading and exploration ships is PvP then ......... well i don't know what to say really.

O7

 

[Bigmaec]

There is no PvP community, just gankers, otherwise CQC would be positively buoyant.
If you think attacking trading and exploration ships is PvP then ......... well i don't know what to say really.

O7

PvP has nothing to do with CQC. Completely different.
Comparing both says how much you know about either.

 

[Hamurd]

"The beginner engineers in general are to be treated carefully" Tells you everything you need to know about gankers and how they ruin games right there. A pathetic bunch, and worse, are those who defend them.

 

[Ettanin]

"The beginner engineers in general are to be treated carefully" Tells you everything you need to know about gankers and how they ruin games right there. A pathetic bunch, and worse, are those who defend them.

And it will be worse in 3.8 now that CGs are gone as a distracting focal point...

 

[ethelred]

And it will be worse in 3.8 now that CGs are gone as a distracting focal point...

3.8 might be the legacy PvE mode some people want?

 

[Hamurd]

And that is your problem, nobody else's.

Actually, it's also the developers problem. In every game, gankers always lead to less players, which equals less money.