Nobody: “please give packhounds, seekers, and frags the most powerful experimental effect ever”
Fdev: “Ok, we got this”
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Nobody: “please give packhounds, seekers, and frags the most powerful experimental effect ever”
Fdev: “Ok, we got this”
Don't do that !
I'm working and farming an account from ps4 since one mouth to bring my chieftain to pc. And when I am on the last point of my do to list before being able to play again they just said "no you won't"
The effective range of frags is very low, and if frags become a ubiquitous meta then you have to look at the zero pip flight behavior of all ships, not just a theoretical uneven engagement where only one side has an agility/speed counter. And the other side doesn't have any of the common counters to frags/turrets.
Alas, they read your posts all too closely .......
You complained about ADC boosting, they fix it with an engineering "balance pass." I lay the blame for this upon you.
Please be careful what you wish for.
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Effective range means nothing when it takes one fragment to apply the effect. People aren't going to be running all-frag builds, they're going to use frags as utility to make opponents sit still.
Very low... compared to hitscan? Frag effectiveness is average to what you'll be firing at anyway.
I totally welcome our new "boost-killing" weapons. If it were up to me, only small and medium fighters would be able to boost. So blame away, I wear this badge with pride
One high-cap drag frag on the smallest hardpoint you have. Fire once every 5 seconds to make sure your enemy sits perfectly still for all the rest of your weps.
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Take a courier with 1 frag and 2 force shell. Get in front of them while they are trying to flee.
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Even the best, most evasive pilots get nicked with some pellets from time to time.
Hitting even a well piloted FDL with a couple pellets is easy within average engagement range.
Hitting even a well piloted FDL with a couple pellets is easy within average engagement range.
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If you use/waste drag on frags you are agreeing to cut your sustained frag DPS in half while being close enough to the target that you lose your only defense against Pacs for instance. I mean, if someone wants to try to CC me with wimpy drag frags, please try it
If you use/waste drag on frags you are agreeing to cut your sustained frag DPS in half while being close enough to the target that you lose your only defense against Pacs for instance. I mean, if someone wants to try to CC me with wimpy drag frags, please try it
The drag frag won't be a DPS weapon, it will be a utility to stop you from evading everything else I'm now going to be throwing at you. You will be in a permanent 0-pip state without the ability to boost, so you will eat every single PA I throw at you until you die or wake out and you won't be able to do anything about it.
Record it please! I want to watch the video. Surely a real fight will put an end to this debate, one way or the other.I mean, if someone wants to try to CC me with wimpy drag frags, please try it
OK thank for info
Watch out CMDR Nobody, you will be ganked to the end of the servers
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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If you use/waste drag on frags you are agreeing to cut your sustained frag DPS in half while being close enough to the target that you lose your only defense against Pacs for instance. I mean, if someone wants to try to CC me with wimpy drag frags, please try it
You're going to get hit. You wont be able to boost. Your pips will act as if they are at 0 with a 5 second cooldown.
Speed wont matter if someone can match your speed and catch you. After that Frag DPS is the highest DPS in the game.
Once you are hit you will continue to be hit repetitively and nuked until dead. Premium exists too remember.
Ziljan, youre wrong buddy. And people without any experience in how to engineer their ship is going to be more screwed than you are, thats like 95% of this player base right now cause HUUR I DUN NEED TO PVP I HAVE MODES.
This is a bad change by itself. It needs to be rolled back, or other changes to defensive and other offensive modules to complement it.
High end pvpers were already nuking people in under 10 seconds. I took out a vette in 7 seconds before this change. Can you imagine that guy after this change?
www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=53&v=h-51_yw9_w8
It already wasnt fair. Now its even worse.
If you use/waste drag on frags you are agreeing to cut your sustained frag DPS in half while being close enough to the target that you lose your only defense against Pacs for instance. I mean, if someone wants to try to CC me with wimpy drag frags, please try it
Drag has never been the main damage dealer on frags/pacifiers. Since the eng pip changes, drag has been used to control a target under focus.
Then it cancels out. If everyone is frag locked then the core flying properties of ships becomes more relevant. So it's not a death sentence, it's just a Nerf to permaboost and maybe to shield boosters. Which I think many people will agree needed to happen, but once it comes, every one finds some lame excuse to maintain the status quo.
When the AutoCruise was announced and demonstrated to work only as far as the blue zone of supercruise speed, I jokingly commented that this was to improve Pirating as a career. Now that the boost killer engineering mod is to be introduced, I'm beginning to believe it's true ! 
