CQC Are There Known Hacks in CQC That We Know Of?

BEKTOP 3APEMOB

BEKTOP 3APEMOB
MercenaryThorrn said:
Sounds like a different one.
I almost wish I could hide the CMDRs name and post the video up in fact.
By the end of the match the CMDR realised I was following them around.
They started to hide in the structures around the map and tried to avoid combat.
Left the lobby as soon as the match was over too.
Felt like a caught a kid with his hand in the cookie jar and they kept denying it even as crumbs covered their face.
I got a quick look at stats before they left.
Clearly they had not always used the hack and hopefully a quick warning email from Frontier scares them back to playing without it.
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You can post videos, just don't call out a person you suspect there as a cheater - then you won't brake any rules and we get to see what you see. Just call these matches ''weird'' and we'll look closely at them :)
 

Hurricane Moon

Banned
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popuptoaster said:
Yes, someone has hacked the CQC ranking into my ED cockpit.
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now that is just plain wrong!....
i like how a lot of peeps moaning about hacks and cheats...or as FD like to call it in there Educating ED Vids.......Fd Development tool......ha ha....lol
whats good for the goose is good for the gander
 

kossack

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Well, it looks like the most common (eng) hacking is stopped (for now?), but there is apparently a (new?) class of hackers:
They somehow "overclock" their clients so their weapons fire more rapidly, inflicting more damage. It also looks like this hack adds maneuverability/speed to their ships..
Players beware...

PS: FD, please do not use basic timers in Windows client...
 
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Wizzelonis O`Hare

Wizzelonis O`Hare
BEKTOP 3APEMOB said:
As game puts me with low skill players 99% of the time lately, I get a lot of matches such as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He1xsP6KboY
I think many noobs would feel like I'm cheating, or have unlocked some dangerous weapons and shields
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well i have to agree with you i`m new to the game and so to CQC i made to rank 5 (woohoo)
but i did get my and other low rank players ower butts kicked by 2 players of high rank (29 and 38)
so yeah thru noobs will say those guys where cheating, but i saw it was clearly use of tactics and knowlidge of the map lay out that made them good.
may be a beter match making system whould be a good idea, with groups of minimum and maximum ranks ( like 1 to 5, 6 to 12 enz enz.)
 

dutchy2000

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Wizzelonis O`Hare said:
well i have to agree with you i`m new to the game and so to CQC i made to rank 5 (woohoo)
but i did get my and other low rank players ower butts kicked by 2 players of high rank (29 and 38)
so yeah thru noobs will say those guys where cheating, but i saw it was clearly use of tactics and knowlidge of the map lay out that made them good.
may be a beter match making system whould be a good idea, with groups of minimum and maximum ranks ( like 1 to 5, 6 to 12 enz enz.)
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You are aware that rank really doesn't mean much right? Just that you have been in more matches than other people. The standard lvl 1 condor is fairly well balanced and all the 'upgrades' are mostly side grades (people will argue that reverse shields and different boosters are upgrades).
 

kossack

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K/D means very little too. There is a player in CQC with K/D ~12 who figured out a simple strategy to "pump" K/D. Requires very little skill..

dutchy2000 said:
You are aware that rank really doesn't mean much right? Just that you have been in more matches than other people. The standard lvl 1 condor is fairly well balanced and all the 'upgrades' are mostly side grades (people will argue that reverse shields and different boosters are upgrades).
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Wizzelonis O`Hare

Wizzelonis O`Hare
well a system that can shifft thru the skill levels whould be nice for match making.
because flying 100 clicks and than getting killed by the same person(s) dos not make a nice game i tell you.
some times i can take it beter than others.
 

Mark Zima

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I saw two cheaters yesterday. One was a condor that ignored all damage for a whole minute while sitting still. Another was sidewinder rubberbanding back and forth while running away, not taking damage either...

Elite's p2p architecture was a fatal mistake, the moment real hackers take interest in this game, it's over.
 

Lestat

Banned
Lestat
I know one way to keep cannon going. But it really not a hack. Just set Fire group for each cannon per trigger. Fire one for 5 10 seconds. Then use the other Cannon. So one reload while the other cannon is Fired. If you do it right. It make it look like your being hit twice as fast.

But it not a hack. It just seem that way.
 

Jet Fusion

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Script kiddies... Real hackers just want to see if something is waterproof to their liking or have an answer to the question "Can i hack this?". Most of them have actually not a real intention of using their hacks in the serious way. It's the mindless and skilless that copy pasta someone else's work and abuse it. Calling those people 'hackers' is too much fame and credit they do not deserve. Stop calling them hackers, because it make you look like you have no idea what you are really talking about.
 
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kossack

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And the hackers are back - saw a "no hull damage" player in the game just a few minutes ago...
Frontier, what are you going to do?
 

kossack

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SushiCW said:
Did you report him? Were you able to capture any video evidence to back up the report?
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I did not - kind of gave up on reporting earlier and have not seen much hacking for a while.. (I know - I should start reporting again, me bad..)
 
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kossack

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A few "very good" players who disappeared from CQC after horizons release are back...
Also - quite a few very good new players showed up in the past 24 hours..

Not sure if this related to hacking - but timing is curiously sudden. Just a lot of "good players" appearing in CQC all at once...
 
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StuF

StuF
According to their site - they do have hacks back online however it is only for the 32bit version of the game so not Horizons
Play it on 64bit and there are no hacks!
 

kossack

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StuF said:
According to their site - they do have hacks back online however it is only for the 32bit version of the game so not Horizons
Play it on 64bit and there are no hacks!
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Unfortunately users of all 3 available clients (Horizons-64bit, Elite-64bit and Elite-32bit) play in the same arenas. So me using 64-bit has no effect on somebody else using 32-bit.
If you suggesting it as a way for me to fight temptation to use hacks myself - I do not need it.

Also, there are multiple hacks/mods for ED out there. Both for 32-bit client (the most widely used by the script kiddies) and 64-bit. There are also at least 2 commercial products that claim to augment ED.
Besides "code injection cheats" there are all kinds of totally external cheats related to lag modulation and selective UDP packet rejection that people use (most of them not even ED-specific and some of them even external to the computer you run the game on (network cable dis-connectors and packet filters installed on the second machine or even router)

BTW I am pretty sure that there are lag modulating players in CQC. Not reporting them because it is possible that it is just a networking problem. But being somewhat familiar with the subject, consistent packet re-ordering is fairly unlikely on the Internet so if you see periodic rubber banding of a player - he is probably cheating...

And the last thing. FD can somewhat easily make developing hacks for ED much much harder. I do not understand why they are ignoring this problem. And do not give me the usual "P2P can't be trusted" crap - Try to tell it to the users of Bitcoin. There are a lot of ways ED can be made much more hacking-resilient. The problem is in FD unwillingness to do it.
 
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