Autumn DLC Speculation

New shop type: Carts shells! The kind with a box, wheels, and handles. Similar to the food truck shell. New food shop types relevant for this type of food (pretzels, popcorn, ice cream bars, etc.) would be neat too.
Expand the faux tree and rock building set.
These are my favorite of your suggestions! Also, here's a good idea: faux rocks as wall and flat roof pieces. They'd look like caves!
 
I would adore an update to the exhibit system that allows us to make smaller and larger exhibits, as well as the ability to change their shape. There are plenty of exhibit animals like the Axolotl, Danube Crested Newt, Mexican Red-Kneed Tarantula, and Goliath Beetle that are simply way too small for the exhibit size we have right now.
also add small mini mammals and fish tanks.
 
Ok, so, imma be honest, I'm a little tired of speculating the DLC, because we just keep repeating the same things in different words.

So, I have a little game we can play (sorta):

Let's Build Update 1.11

So, whoever wants to join in, say a small feature you'd like to see in the next update. No huge features like flying or fully aquatic animals, please.

I'll start:

  • Option to toggle different theme music. As we know, every DLC (except the Deluxe) had its own theme, right? A theme we can't hear in-game. So, what if we had the option to choose a theme other than the base game theme we hear in the main menu? Of course, your options would depend on the DLC you have
A carousel ride with flexi color elements and the ability to pick between several sets of animal riders.
 
I don’t think that it was much discussed but ARBOREAL animal pack could be really interesting and benefit from brachiation with:

Sloths
Monkeys
New world porcupines
Kinkajous
Coatis
Fossas
Gibbons
Tree kangaroos
Small Cats
Birds

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I came up with an arboreal pack a couple weeks ago on a whim and it wound up catching me off guard with how good the list turned out. Part of that’s because it might be the single best theme for getting two monkeys, but also because it covers so many good South American species. Something like this:

  • Golden lion tamarin
  • Mantled guereza
  • Hoffman’s two-toed sloth
  • Spectacled bear
  • Ocelot
  • Matschie’s tree kangaroo
  • Raccoon, coati, fossa, Brazilian porcupine, lar gibbon, Coquetrl’s sifaka, Prevost’s squirrel, SO many options
  • Caiman lizard or something
Incredibly powerful pack.
 
I'm SO EXCITED for tomorrow! The stream is 6pm for me so perfect timing because I come home from work at around 5:15pm. I'll make some tea, get a cozy blanket which my two cats will happily take as their resting spot, and enjoy with you all there in the chat. 😺

It's going to be so much fun! I feel like a little child waiting for Christmas or something haha!

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Honestly, whilst I am looking forward to the pack, in general now I'm also mostly looking forward to the update. I really hope the next one comes with flexicolor staff, it would be really fun to be able to make a specific colour palette for your zoos.

On the other hand, I do really want to know what the theme of the pack is. I'm sceptical when it comes to a Nocturnal pack, or at least in the way people seem to expecting it, and I'm also not convinced yet that biome packs really are a thing at this point. To me, as they say in Dutch, one swallow doesn't make spring; so unless the next pack is indeed another biome pack, I'm classifying Wetlands as the same kind of "whatever unities a bunch of requested animals" pack 😅
 
Honestly, whilst I am looking forward to the pack, in general now I'm also mostly looking forward to the update. I really hope the next one comes with flexicolor staff, it would be really fun to be able to make a specific colour palette for your zoos.

On the other hand, I do really want to know what the theme of the pack is. I'm sceptical when it comes to a Nocturnal pack, or at least in the way people seem to expecting it, and I'm also not convinced yet that biome packs really are a thing at this point. To me, as they say in Dutch, one swallow doesn't make spring; so unless the next pack is indeed another biome pack, I'm classifying Wetlands as the same kind of "whatever unities a bunch of requested animals" pack 😅
A swallow may make Spring, just not Summer yet ;)

Other than that I agree although I personally think a Nocturnal Pack would be pretty cool (preferably with scenery).
 
You mean guide dogs, right?
Not neccessarily. I know it has been brought up before, but it's not uncommon in germany that you can bring your dog with you. I know it's been frowned upon in the forums, especially by the people from the US, but it's worth noteing that dogs in germany are in public everyday and the average family dog in a zoo is actually rather well behaved. I saw several occasions where the animals (mostly apes, but also seals) are very interested and enriched with seeing a dog - similar to seeing a toddler.
Usually in germany you have to pay an entrance fee for the dog and they're not allowed in enclosures with direct animal contacts, usually. Some zoos make exceptions with deers, but not many.

That said, I don't need them (dogs) as a guest type in PZ. Given how different culture is on this, it feels like it would break immergin for some while being normal to others.
 
In Denmark some zoos also allow dogs, but I find it weird it is even legal. Mostly because of zoonoses and such. When a zoo gets a new animal to the park, it will usually stay in quarantine for a while to make sure it isn't sick. But guests can walk in with a dog without any kind of disease control.
 
I feel like we're more likely to get a biome-based animal pack, considering that we've already gotten the Wetlands Pack. Out of what you brought up, I bet we get a Drylands pack because most of the wetlands animals were from tropical rainforest climates. That eliminates the Rainforest Pack. Plus the semi-aquatic animals would probably eliminate the Island Pack.
I don't think having semi-aquatic species immediately invalidates anything. Same with it being vaguely tropical, cus the crane and newt definitely weren't tropical.

I'd say a drylands pack has some good potential still, but I wouldn't rule anything out just yet.
 
I don’t think that it was much discussed but ARBOREAL animal pack could be really interesting and benefit from brachiation with:

Sloths
Monkeys
New world porcupines
Kinkajous
Coatis
Fossas
Gibbons
Tree kangaroos
Small Cats
Birds

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I'd probably go with:
Geoffroy's Spider-Monkey - Flagship
Linnaeus's Two-Toed Sloth
Fossa
Goodfellow's Tree-Kangaroo
Mantled Guereza or Black Howler Monkey
South American Coati or Raccoon
Crocodile Monitor
Panther Chameleon (Exhibit)
 
On the other hand, I do really want to know what the theme of the pack is. I'm sceptical when it comes to a Nocturnal pack, or at least in the way people seem to expecting it….

I’m not at sure what the next pack will be - I’d like nocturnal but I don’t think it’s very likely for a couple of reasons. First, I think a mixed/scenery pack is more likely, since I think there’s some obvious theming that’d fit. 2nd, whilst l like the idea, I think other themes are more likely (Drylands, desert, forests, islands etc.)
If by “the way people are expecting it” you mean giving animals day/night behavioural differences then, yes I think it’s unlikely. However, unlike many seem to think, I don’t think it’s necessary or even desirable for that to be added… maybe an enrichment bonus for dark vs. light, but even then, far from required.
 
I don’t think that it was much discussed but ARBOREAL animal pack could be really interesting and benefit from brachiation with:

Sloths
Monkeys
New world porcupines
Kinkajous
Coatis
Fossas
Gibbons
Tree kangaroos
Small Cats
Birds
An arboreal pack could be really good, especially if they covered animals from as many continents and forest types as possible. Some of my favoured potential options include:

Animals that would probably/definitely need a new movement rig (choose four of each):
North American tree porcupine
Colombian red howler monkey
- Would come with new chorus behaviour
Red-faced black spider monkey - Would come with brachiation
Linnaeus' two-toed sloth
Goodfellow's tree kangaroo
Eastern black-and-white colobus
- Could also come with new chorus behaviour *
Any species of African rainforest guenon
Yellow-throated marten
Eurasian red squirrel
Coquerel's sifaka
- May be quite difficult to make, as they move by leaping between vertical trunks more than they do by climbing
A turaco (my preference is the white-cheeked) - They are very weak flyers that are more at home running along tree branches and hopping through vegetation; the leaping between climbing features would probably suit these birds better than actual climbing would
Parson's chameleon - They are the biggest chameleons (as big as cats), have a lot of features I fear would be missed if they were exhibit animals (feeding animations, the simple grace of their movement) and perhaps surprisingly this species is not only tolerant but possibly reliant on lower temperatures - the private keepers who have real success with these animals often allow them regular outdoor access, even in areas as temperate as Germany and Minnesota

* The males make this territorial noise that can carry for up to a mile, but I'm not certain if it would constitute chorus behaviour because it may be that only the dominant male actually calls: https://sounds.bl.uk/Environment/Listen-to-Nature/022M-LISTNAT00088-0001V0

Animals that could probably use an existing rig:
Common brushtail possum - Actually shares a lot of behaviours with the red panda, and could probably be made using it
Another gibbon - Not sure if I really have a preference, but would use the siamang rig and has a combination of brachiation and chorus behaviour
A small cat - The margay is the most arboreal and could probably use the clouded leopard rig (although slow-motion jumping would need to be fixed)
Spectacled bear - Could be repurposed from another bear species
Kinkajou - Would probably use similar animations to the binturong, including the tail hanging
Siberian musk deer - As this photo shows, musk deer are actually capable of climbing trees and do so to feed on lichen when snow covers the ground vegetation; could probably be repurposed from another ungulate
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Markhor - Can also climb trees and would use the same rig as the Dall sheep and ibex
Crocodile monitor - Could use the existing monitor rig, but it would need climbing animations added (perhaps using this opportunity to add climbing to the Nile monitor and young Komodo dragons)

Trying to choose just seven from that list is actually really tricky - for an exhibit I would probably choose some sort of gecko, although the golden-eyed stick insect is a species I would love to see as well; they are critically endangered, commonly kept and would be the first South American insect in the game that actually exists in captivity.
 
I'm SO EXCITED for tomorrow! The stream is 6pm for me so perfect timing because I come home from work at around 5:15pm. I'll make some tea, get a cozy blanket which my two cats will happily take as their resting spot, and enjoy with you all there in the chat. 😺

It's going to be so much fun! I feel like a little child waiting for Christmas or something haha!

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I just hope the hints aren't too subtile this time around. The conservation pack stream was a bit much in that regard. Like, frustrating, tbh. The best one yet surely was the wetland pack stream and the european pack stream, even though with them we were completely on the wrong track with some animals.
 
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