I'm no white knight, but seriously - if you think ED is a valid use of your time as is, carry on playing and if you don't, do something else. Lifetime passes are always going to be a gamble, you might win big, you might lose. Like all life decisions, ultimately you'll just have to deal with it.
Awkward question that really needs an answer
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FDev delivered Horizons but failed to do so in a timely manner. As such, many players feel that the extra year that was tacked onto Horizon's development has been a year delay in further development.
Yaffle
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There has never been an announcement from FD about the game path being 10 years. The closest I could find is one where they said they'd like it to last years and years.
Saying someone would like it to last a certain timeframe isn't the same as carving a path. Years and years doesn't mean the same thing as 10 years.
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I think with the OP's statement of
it's implied that there's an LEP involved somewhere. (which is how I understood it)
To which my response is basically "where's the guarantee of a DLC release announcement on a particular date within that LEP?"
I also don't remember where I read/saw it but I do recall something about the Seasons model being dropped which caused a lot of hubbub in the forums over LEP's as well.
Its a little late in the game to be worrying about this. One thing that should be abundantly clear by this point is that anyone dragging their feet about upgrading to the full Horizons package is in serious need of a reality check.
I think Frontier has done us all a solid with the pricing of Elite Dangerous. At least when I compare the overall cost of entry to other games out there that offer similar levels of potential play time.
That's great, deal with it. Certainly I can do that.
"Dealing with it" in the manner you prescribe does not generally result in a amiable outcome. People speak up about these issues because they want to work toward a better possible outcome than what they see coming.
So I am dealing with it, in the manner that I prescribe, which is to push for the best possible outcome for all parties.
I get to play the game for another year. FDev gets to soak up my money for another year. Friends I play with get to spend more social time with me for another year. Nobody loses.
I choose to deal with the possibility of losing all of that by being proactive and voicing my concerns rather than passively twiddling my thumbs and hoping everything works out somehow and it should be OK.
No. That's not how life works. Get off your backside and work for what you want.
If I order a product from you, and you tell me that product is going to be delayed for a year, how long do you think it's going to be before I run a chargeback over my credit card?
Players have been unnecessarily tolerant of FDev's behavior simply because they can't be bothered and there's always a fresh promise around the corner.
Yaffle
Volunteer Moderator
Ahh, that makes a little more sense, I didn't fully grasp that. Thanks. As linked in that other thread nothing has changed about the LEP at any point, ever. other than in the minds of some forum commentators.
So we should, what, cancel our subscriptions?
Yaffle
Volunteer Moderator
I must confess I thought the word 'season' was a bad choice of word, as it makes no sense at all, but I have no recollection of a promise it would be completed within 12 months and everything else after 12 months would be paid for. I can recall it setting out there would be 4 bits, the last one called ?????? (thargoids we now know) but I don't recall seeing a deadline for that. Of course, I may be wrong.
Are we seriously moaning that FD are adding to the game this year and not charging in any form for it?
And thank you for clearing the last bit up, too. With all the speculation recently, I had to double-check the calendar just to make sure we're really in the second week of the new year.
The tone of a lot of these threads seem to imply "we're already in November and FD hasn't announced or released anything all year" or something similar to that effect.
I've yet to see Beyond even released, let alone an entire year's worth of content for people to be dissatisfied over.
I guess we can also agree that they didn't make the original release plan
All in all, they did end up delivering something matching the descriptions though.
If you think your occasional splurges in the microtransaction store aren't a subscription come a little closer. I've got something to tell you that is going to be a revelation.
By all means, vote with your wallet!
Meanwhile, the rest of us will also do the same.
Good luck with that. I've done chargebacks for actual real reasons. But Horizons was delivered over 2 years ago. It has even been extended, so the value has been doubled. With the Beyond era in the works, the value for Horizons can be considered to be tripled.
If it doesn't meet your expectations, maybe you should adjust your expectations.
It's not perfect, but it's what we have.
And can I haz yur stuff?
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
How can they be a subscription? There's no requirement to buy cosmetics from the store and access to the game is not stopped if we don't buy cosmetics....
What, you mean when I spend roughly equal to a couple of packets of crisps once every three months? If you seriously think that’s equal to a subscription then I have a bridge to sell to you.
I did not know that I had to renew my paintjobs periodically :O