Balancing of NPC piracy

Such as? Most people on this thread report disappointing overall profits compared to other activities in elite.
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Haven’t done much piracy, but most ships only carry garbage.
Scavenging is much more rewarding.
Most ships only carrying garbage is true, but as I said if you know where to look you can find better hauls. Is it as profitable as other activities? No, but by careful selection the profit is much better than just pirating random ships
 
Current systems for NPC PVE LTD ship piracy raiding are still...

Super cruse pull over actions only
GLIESE 3897 B (Finished expansion currently in Boom state for back to high LTD ship spawn rate. )

Station ship raiding actions only.
Kurughnaye system, McArthur City station ( Civil liberty ended, boom only state remains for return to increased LTD spawning ships.)

Bringing a big ship in case one of these shows up is what can avoid heartache on having to leave many tons behind ...
EuYht4GWYAcek0M
 
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Current systems for NPC PVE LTD ship piracy raiding are still...

Super cruse pull over actions only
GLIESE 3897 B (Finished expansion currently in Boom state for back to high LTD ship spawn rate. )

Station ship raiding actions only.
Kurughnaye system, McArthur City station ( Civil liberty ended, boom only state remains for return to increased LTD spawning ships.)

Bringing a big ship in case one of these shows up is what can avoid heartache on having to leave many tons behind ...
EuYht4GWYAcek0M
GLIESE 3897 B fits the now standard criterion i.e. industrial systems with no rings, one to add to the list.
Station ship raiding is however fairly unfamiliar to me - apart from McArthur City station being anarchy and industrial economy with ready made black market, what makes it better than others?
Nice pic by the way!
 
GLIESE 3897 B fits the now standard criterion i.e. industrial systems with no rings, one to add to the list.
Station ship raiding is however fairly unfamiliar to me - apart from McArthur City station being anarchy and industrial economy with ready made black market, what makes it better than others?
Nice pic by the way!
Population of system... 1.7 Billion... ( higher the population the higher traffic and higher the demand. )
No ICE rings... so LTD ships have to arrive from out side systems and BGS supply can not be fulfilled from its own rings as there are no Ice rings...
Industry stations out way the other economies as there are surface locations that are also industry...
LTD ships are required there as well so increases all station spawns by default... ( Fdev scripts don't change )
You can get LTD ships at those planet locations... but you don't really need to raid them as other station is better ( no gravity issues...)
Demand at stations is stupidly high by default this creates a BGS trade route which is on galaxy map..

This is how this and other high frequency station raiding locations were found... This is not the only Location found this way... Others exsist... (there not in currently in boom so are worse)
 
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Population of system... 1.7 Billion... ( higher the population the higher traffic and higher the demand. )
No ICE rings... so LTD ships have to arrive from out side systems and BGS supply can not be fulfilled from its own rings as there are no Ice rings...
Industry stations out way the other economies as there are surface locations that are also industry...
LTD ships are required there as well so increases all station spawns by default... ( Fdev scripts don't change )
You can get LTD ships at those planet locations... but you don't really need to raid them as other station is better ( no gravity issues...)
Demand at stations is stupidly high by default this creates a BGS trade route which is on galaxy map..

This is how this and other high frequency station raiding locations were found... This is not the only Location found this way... Others exsist... (there not in currently in boom so are worse)
Maybe I'm missing something but you appear to be describing ideal conditions for a good LTD system (supply cannot be filled from its own rings) rather than a particular station.
 
The RNGods seem to be involved, though. Even if the system meets the perfect conditions, you still may find nothing in quite a long time. Moreover, I've happened to find systems that looked really good for an evening or two, I pirated quite a number of ships there but they run completely dry just the other day. Even though the set of parameters as seen on eddb has not changed at all.

I now hunt in Cupisii which is the first system I visited that offers a stable source of prey ships for longer than two days (four not consecutive days so far). This system even seems to not get affected by additional economy type and/or additional state. When I arrived there over a week ago it was Industrial/Private Enterprise, Boom/Expansion (if I remember correctly) and no trade routes but still LTD ships were everywhere. No idea how it's different from other systems that have the same set of parameters but offer literally nothing or run dry after a day or two.
 
The RNGods seem to be involved, though. Even if the system meets the perfect conditions, you still may find nothing in quite a long time. Moreover, I've happened to find systems that looked really good for an evening or two, I pirated quite a number of ships there but they run completely dry just the other day. Even though the set of parameters as seen on eddb has not changed at all.

I now hunt in Cupisii which is the first system I visited that offers a stable source of prey ships for longer than two days (four not consecutive days so far). This system even seems to not get affected by additional economy type and/or additional state. When I arrived there over a week ago it was Industrial/Private Enterprise, Boom/Expansion (if I remember correctly) and no trade routes but still LTD ships were everywhere. No idea how it's different from other systems that have the same set of parameters but offer literally nothing or run dry after a day or two.
Agreed, it's best just after the system hits boom, and lasts a couple of days.
 
The RNGods seem to be involved, though. Even if the system meets the perfect conditions, you still may find nothing in quite a long time. Moreover, I've happened to find systems that looked really good for an evening or two, I pirated quite a number of ships there but they run completely dry just the other day. Even though the set of parameters as seen on eddb has not changed at all.

I now hunt in Cupisii which is the first system I visited that offers a stable source of prey ships for longer than two days (four not consecutive days so far). This system even seems to not get affected by additional economy type and/or additional state. When I arrived there over a week ago it was Industrial/Private Enterprise, Boom/Expansion (if I remember correctly) and no trade routes but still LTD ships were everywhere. No idea how it's different from other systems that have the same set of parameters but offer literally nothing or run dry after a day or two.
Private enterprise is the economy of fleet carriers and doesn't affect LTD spawn at all. Trade routes play no part in the criteria at all. If you exclude that then Cupisii perfectly matches the known parameters. Here is the complete list of matching systems
 
Private enterprise is the economy of fleet carriers and doesn't affect LTD spawn at all.
Oh! Good to know! Thanks for the hint!
Trade routes play no part in the criteria at all.
This one I investigate, I suspect that they may have an impact. No hard data so far, though.
If you exclude that then Cupisii perfectly matches the known parameters.
It does. Like some other systems I've visited and that are on the list but have been not even close to Cupisii's supply of LTD ships.
 
Oh! Good to know! Thanks for the hint!

This one I investigate, I suspect that they may have an impact. No hard data so far, though.

It does. Like some other systems I've visited and that are on the list but have been not even close to Cupisii's supply of LTD ships.
The group on reddit that worked out the criteria for reliably finding ships with LTDs investigated trade routes, but it was found not to be a factor. The reason it seems promising is that the criteria is actually based on the products consumed by the economies in the system and products that can be mined from the belts/rings, with industrial economies heavily weighted to LTDs. Note that the system economy is calculated in some way from the economies of the system and is not always accurate, so it is only useful as a guide. This is the criteria used in the spreadsheet I linked and the only time I know it has been wrong is when the data from eddb.io (which it is based on) was wrong. The ones that I know are wrong are struck through
 
Cupisii is now in Boom+Expansion+War and LTD ships keep spawning without any issues. Even Type-9 (which suicided by spamming mines out of her four launchers :cry: ).

I reckon this system must have been somehow modified to overcome every adversity.

However, there is a war between an anarchy faction and a democracy faction now (both player factions). If the latter one wins, will the government type change?
 
However, there is a war between an anarchy faction and a democracy faction now (both player factions). If the latter one wins, will the government type change?

Yes. If the democracy wins, then the system becomes under their control, and will become a democracy syatem.... Kiss goodbye to what you are used to there...

Just another huge faction steamrolling the smaller ones in its spread with a general plan of constant expansion looking at the finer detail...
 
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Yes. If the democracy wins, then the system becomes under their control, and will become a democracy syatem.... Kiss goodbye to what you are used to there...
It won't change that much. You just have to interdict your target, then wait for them to high wake. Use a wake scanner to follow them then rinse and repeat until they jump to an anarchy system
 
In fact, I like non-anarchy systems more. Less tedious, more challenging, more hide & seek with the police, more fun. :)

If the supply remains at the same level, I'm ok with the government change. ;)
 
If the supply remains at the same level, I'm ok with the government change. ;)

Do report on your findings. It will be interesting to know how much effect it has.

A little more digging shows this may be a huge war... Its Portugal vs Spain, and quite a clash of the titans reguarding squadron sizes. Might not be as clear cut as it first appeared...
 
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