Best beginner mining ships 3.3

Mrat13

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Sylow said:
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And that can be done by about any ship which has one medium hardpoint. (I wouldn't pick the Imperial Eagle, though. Its internals may still be a little limiting... )
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I also when the beta struck was along the lines that FD is just putting in another round of module inflation, in this case hardpoints. I had a hard time picking a ship to bring all the tools. But once core mining became as lucrative as it now can be, I don't see the need to have all the tools.
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In contrast, I found small ships to be of low value for mining in the old system. Sure, there were small mining lasers. But you just didn't have the capacity to bring a big cargo hold, big enough refinery and enough limpets to really work smoothly.
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When core mining, you don't have that many things to scoop. While my limpets collected the few pieces I found during the handful of rocks I cracked (so no I am not mining expert, only gave it a short try), they were so few that manual scooping also would've been no big deal. And the payout per ton is orders of magnitude higher than on the old materials.
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Thus you need to be better in finding the materials. Your tonnage of cargo sold is lower, but the payout seems (again, based on my limited testing) quite fine now. Small mining ships now actually can be used.
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So what about the old stuff you could mine? I was scanning around in my explorer DBX to find low temperature diamonds. Have I wasted my time?
 

Andovar

Andovar
13A/24B said:
If you're just cracking cores there's no need for sub-surface.

If you're going for full range mining you can use it, but personally I don't think it's worth the effort. YMMV
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In my experience, the only time it's worth doing all types of mining at the same time is for LTD's.
LTD cores seem to be extremely rare (even in a LTD hotspot). Of course they're still available through laser strip-mining, and as sub-surface deposits. (got 5 chunks from a single sub-surface deposit yesterday :))
So mixing all three types seems to work best here. Though you'll want larger ship, since you end up doing the 'old school' method of prospecting everything.
 

Kamiyoda

Kamiyoda
Andovar said:
In my experience, the only time it's worth doing all types of mining at the same time is for LTD's.
LTD cores seem to be extremely rare (even in a LTD hotspot). Of course they're still available through laser strip-mining, and as sub-surface deposits. (got 5 chunks from a single sub-surface deposit yesterday :))
So mixing all three types seems to work best here. Though you'll want larger ship, since you end up doing the 'old school' method of prospecting everything.
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I thought so too, then I realized the Ice Rings I was in were not Pristine. Moved to a pristine ring and I found cores for days
 

Alderius

Alderius
Where are you guys deep core mining? I'm at a pristine metallic (lhs65 iirc) and in an hour only found 1 rock that had a core, the rest were subsurface. I'm in the only hotspot (and haven't actually found any sarendabite or whatever it's called). Yes, I'm using the wave scanner and prospecting all of the hot rocks, using a Conda (my old miner) to see how well it works. It's a bit cumbersome due to size, but the one core I found seemed to work ok. I only got about 4t of the high end ~200k stuff in an hour, I would have made more doing 3p mining so is it an RNG thing? Need to go to a res site? Any help is appreciated, I was looking forward to the new mechanics but for me, it's a bit of a bust. By the way, I did 3 mining sessions of an hour each roughly and only one core showed up.
 

Andovar

Andovar
Kamiyoda said:
I thought so too, then I realized the Ice Rings I was in were not Pristine. Moved to a pristine ring and I found cores for days
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Ah, good to know! thanks.
I was under the impression that the reserve type didn't matter for cores.
I'll have to check the ring i was in.


Alderius said:
Where are you guys deep core mining? I'm at a pristine metallic (lhs65 iirc) and in an hour only found 1 rock that had a core, the rest were subsurface. I'm in the only hotspot (and haven't actually found any sarendabite or whatever it's called). Yes, I'm using the wave scanner and prospecting all of the hot rocks, using a Conda (my old miner) to see how well it works. It's a bit cumbersome due to size, but the one core I found seemed to work ok. I only got about 4t of the high end ~200k stuff in an hour, I would have made more doing 3p mining so is it an RNG thing? Need to go to a res site? Any help is appreciated, I was looking forward to the new mechanics but for me, it's a bit of a bust. By the way, I did 3 mining sessions of an hour each roughly and only one core showed up.
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The key is to only prospect the really bright rocks from the pulse wave. Core rocks will be significantly brighter than the rest.
Also, if you crack the rock in the optimal range, you should get more than 10t out of a single one.

Another hint, is that you can 'fine tune' the strength/fissure type charges to edge into the optimal range. Just because it's a high-strength fissure doesn't mean it has to be a high strength charge. ;)

Oh, and do yourself a favor and get a smaller more maneuverable ship. :)
 
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Awarkle

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the T10 isn't a very good mining ship its just too big and fat but ive yet to try it as a "multi-crew" covering it in turrets but I would like to see how well it works in a wing maybe for taking garbage loot from the other in the wing. But need to find some mining buddies :) just to add im setting myself up a mining python as I don't have rank for the clipper etc
 
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Kaybe

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I'm reading contradictory statement about this all over the forums, so I need to ask.

Do you NEED to hit hotspots to find cores? Is there any verifiable advantage to using hotspots?
 

Mrat13

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Awarkle said:
the T10 isn't a very good mining ship its just too big and fat but ive yet to try it as a "multi-crew" covering it in turrets but I would like to see how well it works in a wing maybe for taking garbage loot from the other in the wing. But need to find some mining buddies :) just to add im setting myself up a mining python as I don't have rank for the clipper etc
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What platform, I'm on xbox. A mega mining using multicrew sounds like a good laugh.
 

Alec Turner

Alec Turner
Kaybe said:
I'm reading contradictory statement about this all over the forums, so I need to ask.

Do you NEED to hit hotspots to find cores? Is there any verifiable advantage to using hotspots?
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This is an excellent question. My assumption would have been yes. Have any asteroids with fissures been found completely outside of hotsposts? (I guess just a single exception will kinda disprove the rule).
 

Alec Turner

Alec Turner
Alec Turner said:
This is an excellent question. My assumption would have been yes. Have any asteroids with fissures been found completely outside of hotsposts? (I guess just a single exception will kinda disprove the rule).
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Update: by total coincidence I was just listening to the Pixel Bandits and someone there was saying that they felt they'd found more motherlodes in random areas of the ring than in hotspots. If true that leads to a potentially shocking conclusion that hotspots are completely broken or worse, a total lie. Here's the thing ... as far as I know Elite Dangerous is not currently capable of placing planetary minerals in localised areas. I know a lot of people have their personal ideas about there being denser concentrations inside craters or in canyons or whatever but I suspect that's just reinforcement bias and strongly suspect that the entire planet has equally random concentrations of minerals across its entire surface. What if the same is true of rings? Say it's not true Frontier, please god say it's not true! :eek:
 
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Mrat13

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Bob Lighthouse said:
Seems like the Alioth hotspots are bugged.
I've never DS scanned there but the hotspots are visible.
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Just Alioth? I'm stationed there currently and I thought it was just that you could still scan a planet while flying to the target (like the old system). I really hope it isn't a region specific thing, or that means I'm really unlucky.
 
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