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From where I'm sitting, AI couldn't make a worse job of it than social media already has :D
From where I'm sitting, it could. People are much more likely to take AI at its word, despite how frequently it goes into a "delusional" state.

Read the commentary for this comic for an example of someone who rightfully fact checked the ChatGPT:


and watch this video for some poor fool who didn't:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqSYljRYDEM
 
From where I'm sitting, it could. People are much more likely to take AI at its word, despite how frequently it goes into a "delusional" state.

Read the commentary for this comic for an example of someone who rightfully fact checked the ChatGPT:


and watch this video for some poor fool who didn't:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqSYljRYDEM
You're saying it will be Wikipedia but much much worst? Unfortunately I don't need AI to spew nonesense, I know way too many people like that, and that was even before the internet was a thing.
 
I know this isn't really the place for the conversation...but doesn't your VA help out with stuff like that?

Half of my recent ancestors died in VA hospitals, or while in years long arbitration to get the benefits they earned, while receiving questionable care for military related occupational illnesses (mostly lung problems...COPD, emphysema, mesothelioma, etc) that killed them decades early.

I know our lot over here will step in and move mountains to make sh*t happen if required...sending a broken faced retired Gunny or two to instruct 'persuade' some local authority or amenities supplier on how the world should work in real time for retired vets usually works out pretty good.

In the US, you're often on your own when it comes to health care, and the pro-military factions one might think would be inclined to help veterans are also very much anti-
'entitlement'. They'd much rather honor the dead than the living; it's cheaper. The exceptions occur when public money can be funneled into private health care, which they can get legal kickbacks from through investments.

The VA in the United States seems to be more interested in 'woke' at the moment instead of actually helping us vets, unfortunately. My experience though, YMMV.

Not that it's ever been particularly good, but the VA was much more poorly managed in the past, long before anyone co-opted the term 'woke' to refer to arbitrary collections of social trends they don't like, than it has been recently. Unfortunately, the gains won with major reforms in the 90s have been substantially eroded by twenty years of continuous warfare without a corresponding increase in budget or efficiency.

All these vidoes and inteviews and nobody is talking about the really important question, is there a boob-slider and how far does it go?

There, I hope I reduced the wokeness in the world a little.

So, I gather an again-contemporary social trend you don't like is the increasing bias toward ass?

Sir Mix-a-lot is too woke (respectful and body positive) for some people.

You're saying it will be Wikipedia but much much worst? Unfortunately I don't need AI to spew nonesense, I know way too many people like that, and that was even before the internet was a thing.

Wikipedia is, on average, quite accurate. Far from perfect, but certainly competitive with any other general knowledge encyclopedia out there. This should not be surprising because all but the most obscure or niche articles face constant scrutiny from thousands or millions of users.

Current AI models need to be used very carefully to produce accurate results. By and large they are black boxes of trade secrets trained on poorly documented inputs that frequently amplify the biases of their creators and source material then spit out results that cannot be easily audited.

Anyway, computers being able to spin a yarn in coherent English is a huge step forward. Yes, people can do this too, but the AI can do it on demand, within a highly tunable set of constraints, and will do so for free (depending on how stingy IP law is).

People are much more likely to take AI at its word, despite how frequently it goes into a "delusional" state.

Almost two-hundred years ago Babbage said the following in response to dumbass questions about his mechanical computer:

On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.

Seems applicable to the assumptions that go into users taking an otherwise useful tool like AI and grossly misapplying it.

Anyway, the problem here isn't ChatGPT or whatever AI tool, it's lawyers charging $600 an hour to not even proof read their own citations. Online AI tools in the early 2020s may be more opaque in their inscrutability than a mechanical computer was to an 1820s layman, but there really isn't any excuse for not knowing that something can be wrong when one has no idea what that something even does.
 
Don't think I've asked this before, not being familiar with Besthesda games - how will the mods work?

Will you have to pay for them via a BSG BGS satellite site, or will they be free? Or a mix? Or is it too early to tell?

Only ever played two games with modding support in before; one of which was Oolite, which I simply must get around to playing again...
 
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Don't think I've asked this before, not being familiar with Besthesda games - how will the mods work?

Will you have to pay for them via a BSG BGS satellite site, or will they be free? Or a mix? Or is it too early to tell?

Only ever played two games with modding support in before; one of which was Oolite, which I simply must get around to playing again...
There will be free mods though Bethesda look to be doing the Creation Club paid-for mods as well.

I’ve always got mods for Oblivion/Skyrim/Fallout from Nexus mods, and I expect to be getting Starfield mods from here:
 
I know this isn't really the place for the conversation...but doesn't your VA help out with stuff like that? I know our lot over here will step in and move mountains to make sh*t happen if required...sending a broken faced retired Gunny or two to instruct 'persuade' some local authority or amenities supplier on how the world should work in real time for retired vets usually works out pretty good.

I know when I helped out with our veteran's organisation doing exactly that very thing...I usually left some distraught beancounter's office with a briefcase full of signed paperwork and a set of house keys 🤷‍♂️
Unfortunately, the VA is the last resort. The US treats it's vets very differently than the UK does.
 
Not wishing to derail a heartfelt narrative, but, in other news I'm doing my very best to avoid spoilers in any form.

I want to soak deep into this bath, immerse and enjoy for myself, tucked away in my cave, and the rest of the world can go pester off!

Back on track, a very good mate, ex TA with some 'interesting skills', came back from Afghan and got badly messed around, luckily find a lawyers chambers prepared to help him pro bono given the nature of the case. He wrote a book about it all, 'Among You' (Jake Wood).
 
Don't think I've asked this before, not being familiar with Besthesda games - how will the mods work?

Will you have to pay for them via a BSG BGS satellite site, or will they be free? Or a mix? Or is it too early to tell?

Only ever played two games with modding support in before; one of which was Oolite, which I simply must get around to playing again...
Pay? For mods? Bethesda tried to establish "paid mods" once with their "Creation Club" store but that didn't take off and got a pretty backlash. Nah, mods get mostly diistributed via Steam Workshop (easiest integration) or Nexus, a huge online repository for all kinds of mods. "Mod support" is basically having open, modular structure to the data so people can edit these modules and upload as mod. Sophisticated integration allows for dedicated places in the data tree to be reserved for mods without overwriting original data and providing editors. But you can easily mod something that is a table. Biggest hurdle is unpacking the game - if it's cooked into one big datafile it's hard to edit.
 
Half of my recent ancestors died in VA hospitals, or while in years long arbitration to get the benefits they earned, while receiving questionable care for military related occupational illnesses (mostly lung problems...COPD, emphysema, mesothelioma, etc) that killed them decades early.



In the US, you're often on your own when it comes to health care, and the pro-military factions one might think would be inclined to help veterans are also very much anti-
'entitlement'. They'd much rather honor the dead than the living; it's cheaper. The exceptions occur when public money can be funneled into private health care, which they can get legal kickbacks from through investments.



Not that it's ever been particularly good, but the VA was much more poorly managed in the past, long before anyone co-opted the term 'woke' to refer to arbitrary collections of social trends they don't like, than it has been recently. Unfortunately, the gains won with major reforms in the 90s have been substantially eroded by twenty years of continuous warfare without a corresponding increase in budget or efficiency.



So, I gather an again-contemporary social trend you don't like is the increasing bias toward ass?

Sir Mix-a-lot is too woke (respectful and body positive) for some people.



Wikipedia is, on average, quite accurate. Far from perfect, but certainly competitive with any other general knowledge encyclopedia out there. This should not be surprising because all but the most obscure or niche articles face constant scrutiny from thousands or millions of users.

Current AI models need to be used very carefully to produce accurate results. By and large they are black boxes of trade secrets trained on poorly documented inputs that frequently amplify the biases of their creators and source material then spit out results that cannot be easily audited.

Anyway, computers being able to spin a yarn in coherent English is a huge step forward. Yes, people can do this too, but the AI can do it on demand, within a highly tunable set of constraints, and will do so for free (depending on how stingy IP law is).



Almost two-hundred years ago Babbage said the following in response to dumbass questions about his mechanical computer:

On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.

Seems applicable to the assumptions that go into users taking an otherwise useful tool like AI and grossly misapplying it.

Anyway, the problem here isn't ChatGPT or whatever AI tool, it's lawyers charging $600 an hour to not even proof read their own citations. Online AI tools in the early 2020s may be more opaque in their inscrutability than a mechanical computer was to an 1820s layman, but there really isn't any excuse for not knowing that something can be wrong when one has no idea what that something even does.
A last word on this as it's veering straight toward a thread derailment.

The reason our veterans organisations (as a whole) work over here is that we, the veterans, took over looking out for ourselves and away from civil mismanagement and government or corporate interference. We decentralised it, spread out into individual unpaid volunteer only charity supported regional groups directly regulated and answerable under the charities commission then set out to dragging our lost brothers who were slipping between the rails back into the wall of shields.

Nobody will look after our own like we ourselves, it's kinda what we do. The dead are dead and already honoured, it is our given duty to protect and support those left behind fighting the political apathy of a government that doesn't care and a society that doesn't understand. Not one of us should be left fighting those hardest battles on our own.
 
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Why can't we have both?

Some games do. Unfortunately, they are mostly a strange mix of wrestling, sports, and survival MMOs...games where inordinate amounts of time are spent ogling the character, but where clothing and hair can't be the only form customization.

I think it's an effort vs. reward thing (everything is). A lot of work goes into making sure character models and assets mesh well together, so many games wind up with just a handful of basic body types and with only very superficial customization options.

Personally, I'm waiting for the logical conclusion to the customization/representation options, where players are just given a deformable sphere to shape into whatever fantastical entities they can sculpt.
 
Some games do. Unfortunately, they are mostly a strange mix of wrestling, sports, and survival MMOs...games where inordinate amounts of time are spent ogling the character, but where clothing and hair can't be the only form customization.

I think it's an effort vs. reward thing (everything is). A lot of work goes into making sure character models and assets mesh well together, so many games wind up with just a handful of basic body types and with only very superficial customization options.

Personally, I'm waiting for the logical conclusion to the customization/representation options, where players are just given a deformable sphere to shape into whatever fantastical entities they can sculpt.
Honestly, I find the VA (that's "voice actor" in this context) is a major part in my immersion.
 
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