News Beyond 3.0 Beta 2 - Changes to Engineers

So the community has been quite vocal in saying it doesn’t make sense / is grindy to have to G1 - G5 every single module individually, are you not commenting on that?

Actually it is so easy now to get a maxxed out module, there should be at least something that takes some effort .... it makes actually a lot of sense considering how the module stuff works now.

I think a great idea should be that if you directly make a G5 module you get maxxed out red features and if you do it from scratch going thru the grades the red features will be lower in the end.
 
- When pinning a blueprint, it will now pin all grades rather than just one.
- If you have a higher reputation with an Engineer, the number of rolls you need to progress through lower grades will be lower. This means you will be able to roll the highest grade much more quickly if you have a higher reputation with an Engineer.

Splendid! This directly addresses the only two real concerns I had with the new Engineering system. :)
 
Great changes. I think there needs to be more done with C&P though. this is probably not the right place to do that though so I will go on a hunt to leave my feedback. I hope this has fixed the crashes trying to load into the beta.
 
Yes! this is a HUGE leap in the right direction. For those still saying its silly to go from G1 to G5 for each module its so easy to do now. This change in Beta 2 makes it even EASIER! Thanks FDev. Now bring on my limpet controller bay so I can actually pirate again without having to go down to 2 cargo.
 
Greetings Commanders,

As always, your feedback is hugely appreciated, and we’d love to hear what you think about these changes relative to how they were in beta 1.

Sure thing, lets take a look...

- When pinning a blueprint, it will now pin all grades rather than just one.
YES! Excellent, this was my biggest request! :) Now i can grab a ship, immediately visit all engineers, start the 'journey' and then just have fun. Fantastic!

- If you have a higher reputation with an Engineer, the number of rolls you need to progress through lower grades will be lower. This means you will be able to roll the highest grade much more quickly if you have a higher reputation with an Engineer.

YES! Excellent, not what I expected but it fixes my #2 biggest issue. :)

- We’ve made a set of initial changes to improve the blueprints you receive from engaging with Engineers.

Looks good I think but better ask Truesilver. :p

Additional notes: be careful with power creep, and maybe give 'voluntary grinders' something to grind for (.5% extra pointless whatever for another gazillion rolls or some such :p).
 
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- When pinning a blueprint, it will now pin all grades rather than just one.
- If you have a higher reputation with an Engineer, the number of rolls you need to progress through lower grades will be lower. This means you will be able to roll the highest grade much more quickly if you have a higher reputation with an Engineer.

Yea! Put your swords away people.. Fdev's listening to players.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Elite_Dangerous/comments/7szqtw/does_beta_feedback_actually_cause_tweaks_before/
 
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I am over excited about your changes to FSD and Thrusters. That really made my day. Since I am not really interested in pvp, you can now scrap all old weapons (just kidding).

The stuff that is ipmortant for me is now beyond perfect. Thank you very much FD. We trust this facility will serve you well

o7
 
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Greetings Commanders,

First of all we wanted to say a huge thank you to everyone who has helped us test the Beyond 3.0 beta so far. A huge number of you have jumped in to the game to test out the Chieftain, listen to GalNet Audio, and experience the other hundreds of change to the Elite Dangerous galaxy, making it our most populated beta so far.
We’ve been watching your feedback very closely, and thanks to your support we were able to make a few changes to how Engineering works that we’d like to call out specifically.

All of the below will take effect as part of beta 2 (as well as the other many changes in the full patch notes):
- When pinning a blueprint, it will now pin all grades rather than just one.
- If you have a higher reputation with an Engineer, the number of rolls you need to progress through lower grades will be lower. This means you will be able to roll the highest grade much more quickly if you have a higher reputation with an Engineer.
- We’ve made a set of initial changes to improve the blueprints you receive from engaging with Engineers. As always, your feedback is hugely appreciated, and we’d love to hear what you think about these changes relative to how they were in beta 1. Please do continue to test and give us your feedback to help make the very best possible update. See the full list of changes to the modules so far here:

Drives:
- Dirty Drives:
Speed Increase 30%->40%
(Max possible increase now 47%, used to be 47% with extreme luck, 43%+ considered very good)
- Clean Drives:
Speed Increase 18%->28%
(Max possible increase now 34.4%, used to be 33.8%)

Weapons:
- Short Range:
Damage increase 65%->75%
(Max DPS increase 67.5% in live, 70% in beta, now 80% including experimentals)
- Overcharged:
Damage increase 55%->70%
(Max DPS increase 67.5% in live, 59% in beta, now 75% including experimentals)
- Rapid Fire:
Firing Interval reduction 40%->44% (ROF increase 66%->79%)
(Max DPS increase 67.5% in live, 63% in beta, now 74.7% including experimentals)
- Efficient:
Damage increase 17%->24%
(Max DPS increase 26% in live, 20.5% in beta, now 27.7% including experimentals)
Passive power draw reduction 40%->48%
WEP draw reduction 35%->45%
- Focused:
Heat increase halved (10%->5%)

Shield Generator:
- Enhanced, Low Power:
Strength Multiplier: 10%->15%
- Reinforced:
Damage Reduction: 12%->15% (back to where it is in live), also fix a numerical error that resulted it odd results from crafting lvl 1-4 recipes

FSD:
- Increased FSD Range:
Optimised mass 50%->55%

Power Plant:
- Low Emissions:
Heat 60%->65%
- Overcharged:
Power 36%->40%
Hull Reinforcement:
- Single Resistance blueprints:
Off-type penalties reduced 12%->10%
- Heavy Duty:
Damage resistance restored from 8.5%->15%
- Lightweight:
Health Multiplier increase 18%->24%

Armour:
- Heavy Duty:
Health Multiplier increase 30%->35%

Power Distributor:
- High Frequency:
Global charge rate increase 40%->45%
- High Capacity:
Global Charge Capacity 40%->42%
- Priority X blueprints:
Increase charge rate on primary capacitor from 30%->36%
Shield Boosters:
- Heavy Duty:
Shield health increase 38%->40%
- Resistance Augmented:
Global damage resist 16%->17%
Once again, we’d love to hear your thoughts on all of the changes in beta 2 – we’ve been paying close attention to your feedback on social media, the forums, your emails and Reddit since the first beta livestream, and we’ll continue to make changes thanks to your support.

The full change log has been posted here.

ummmm........


- Dirty Drives:
Speed Increase 30%->40%
(Max possible increase now 47%, used to be 47% with extreme luck,


Now 47, used to be 47....


wut?


Can't we hit 56% today on live servers?
 
Actually it is so easy now to get a maxxed out module, there should be at least something that takes some effort .... it makes actually a lot of sense considering how the module stuff works now.

I think a great idea should be that if you directly make a G5 module you get maxxed out red features and if you do it from scratch going thru the grades the red features will be lower in the end.

But why? Why is there always this push to make things more complicated than they have to be?
 
- If you have a higher reputation with an Engineer, the number of rolls you need to progress through lower grades will be lower. This means you will be able to roll the highest grade much more quickly if you have a higher reputation with an Engineer.

Will this also apply when we use the remote engineer?
 
- Dirty Drives:
Speed Increase 30%->40%
(Max possible increase now 47%, used to be 47% with extreme luck,

Now 47, used to be 47....

wut?

Can't we hit 56% today on live servers?

No, nowhere near, not unless you mean Enhanced Drives (a +41% roll will show as +56% on Enhanced Drives as they start at +15%).

I've compared the new rolls to old god rolls here ...

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-says-that-Frontier-have-nailed-Dirty-Drives!

... and based on that early comparison, Frontier seem 100% legit to me.

Fingers crossed that now they manage to sort out the more complex problems posed by some of the secondaries.
 
Frontier Beta feedback meeting:

Sandro: Eff it!...give 'em what they want! Meeting adjourned.

Actually, they can still control the god roll level of weaponry with the number of rolls it will take to max out the level 5 rolls.

The grind for best in slot level 5 rolls was pretty rough...I have read many people doing 50-100+ rolls to get it...

10 rolls to get best in slot...or even 20 rolls...still seems pretty cheap.
 
Thanks you for listening! Moving in the right direction! :)

Will be of to try the update as soon as it finishes downloading ... come on come on!!! XD

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